# Starbucks isn't worth it any more (and the company is getting \[already?\] evil) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** coffee\ **Created:** [June 3, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-isnt-worth-it-any-more-and-the-company-is-getting-already-evil/965645 "2022-06-03T20:52:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-isnt-worth-it-any-more-and-the-company-is-getting-already-evil/965645/161 "2022-06-11T18:55:13Z")
> [@Tarataratara](#): > > Coffee tastes better when someone else makes it for you. Made with love. I don’t want anyone’s love in my coffee. I want a good strong cup of medium-to-dark roasted beans with just the slightest hint of sweetness, and maybe a half ounce of cream (not “non-dairy creamer” whatever the fuck that stuff is) if my stomach is feeling a little off. If I’m away from home I’ll have an Americano because it is less suspect than the drip brewed coffee that has been sitting in the pot for hours scalding at the bottom. I don’t need my name written on the side, or for it to be served by a would-be poet in man-bun, or for someone to try to upsell me on a “Pumpkin Spice Latte” because I’ve never once woke up and though to myself, “Yes, yes I do need to drink something that tastes like a potpourri candle smells.” Starbucks is the cult that combines the slightly off-kilter weirdness of Jehovah’s Witness with the marketing savvy of Philip Morris. I do not trust them, not one bit, and I certainly don’t want to give them my true name or any chance to collect a sample of my DNA. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-isnt-worth-it-any-more-and-the-company-is-getting-already-evil/965645/162 "2022-06-11T19:33:31Z")
Uh, this comment referred to my father-in-law, not some stranger. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-isnt-worth-it-any-more-and-the-company-is-getting-already-evil/965645/163 "2022-06-11T23:23:26Z")
I quite enjoy Starbucks. I also think the breakfast sandwiches are pretty decent. Hopefully they’ll go ahead and limit the restrooms to customers only again. It’s a business, not a social services agency. I’ll be more likely to bring my laptop and hang out again. > **[Starbucks may close its bathrooms to the public again | CNN Business](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/10/business-food/howard-schultz-starbucks-bathrooms/index.html)** > > Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz says his company might not be able to keep its bathrooms open to the general public. The unionisation is silly, low skilled workers and unions don’t mix. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-isnt-worth-it-any-more-and-the-company-is-getting-already-evil/965645/164 "2022-06-11T23:25:51Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > The unionisation is silly, low skilled workers and unions don’t mix. Please, continue to regale us with your theses on labor relations. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-isnt-worth-it-any-more-and-the-company-is-getting-already-evil/965645/165 "2022-06-12T19:04:32Z")
Did Starbucks ever make any specific commitments regarding its alignment? (Just to clarify, as long as you are lawful instead of chaotic…) ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-isnt-worth-it-any-more-and-the-company-is-getting-already-evil/965645/166 "2022-06-12T19:49:36Z")
Corporate Evil; it’s in an orthogonal sliver on the diagram between Lawful Neutral and Chaotic Greed. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-isnt-worth-it-any-more-and-the-company-is-getting-already-evil/965645/167 "2022-06-12T21:00:28Z")
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