Starbucks isn't worth it any more (and the company is getting [already?] evil)

If you ask around, nobody really goes there. It’s just too crowded.

Starbucks is not in the business of selling coffee. They sell chocolate milk, to which some customers add coffee.

I knew it was a scam by the Dairy Mafia!

Stranger

It’s true that they sell a lot more milk than they sell coffee.

Drinking coffee increases both longevity and life satisfaction. If you are going to pay too much for a drink it is a good choice. Is it worth it? If it was worth it in the past, it probably is worth it in the present. If it was never worth it, find another place to make silk purses.

This reads almost like a Tantric homily or the poetry of Frank O’Hara, but I’m still not joining your milk & sugar cult.

Stranger

You’re smarter than you look. But in a study I just made up, coffee increases life satisfaction by thirty percent. Of course, you could make your own or go to a place which actually serves delicious coffee. Fortunately there are now many such independent places, even in small towns.

Wait…how smart do I look?

Stranger

It varies by location and clientele, but in my experience, Starbucks sells plenty of drip. I can’t find the stats I did a number of years ago where it was the most popular item (among many items, though, so I don’t remember actual percentage) , but I did find this Reddit thread where baristas chime in, some reporting in their locations, morning orders are 50-90% regular drip. Others are in locations where it’s more like20%.

I only order drip there and I see plenty of it being sold.

I don’t buy coffee much but sometimes wind up at Starbucks. I find even the lightest roast still a bit too dark but tolerable. What really really takes me by surprise is how wired I get after a cup. I drink 2-5 cups a day during the week at work so it’s not like I hardly consume caffeine but theirs can make my heart race.

There is a standalone store in the outlot of a stripmall near me that seems to always have a line for the drive-thru. It might be 8 or 10 cars deep at 7pm. It seems nuts to me, I’m never going to wait in a line like that for a coffee.

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Wait…how smart do I look?

So that’s where Boris Johnson got his inspiration!

Yes, similar with Chick-Fil-A. You generally get very good customer service and they don’t mess up your order.

In other words, you’re a coffee snob.

I assure you that any NORMAL person realizes that Folgers, Maxwell House, etc. make good coffee.

“Bad” and “good” are obviously subjective.

My boss makes a pot of Folgers every day. The rest of us drink Peet’s. I can smell the instant I walk in the door which one has just brewed. The Folgers smells and tastes awful to me. There’s no snobbery involved in not liking the taste, any more than it’s snobbery to dislike the taste of all coffee. Maybe you don’t smell or taste the same things I do. A friend of mine thinks beets taste like dirt. That doesn’t make him a snob.

But does your friend say that beets are not good? That’s different than saying you don’t like them.

Agreed. Acsenray should have realized that.

You know, I’da been happy with a cup of Taster’s Choice. And you go springing this gourmet sh*t on us!

Admit it, you just drink it because of the commercials:

I hope you aren’t that creep who uses a peculiar obsession with instant coffee to scam your way into a woman’s apartment and then refuse to leave.

Stranger

My father-in-law, may he Rest In Peace, made me a cup of instant coffee every morning when we would visit with them. I don’t know how he did it, but it was delicious.

Grocery store coffee is just bad. That’s a fact. Any coffee that has been roasted and ground god knows when and has been sitting on shelves somewhere is stale coffee. It’s impossible to get a good cup of coffee from that. It’s not snobbery. It’s just tasting different things and paying attention to the taste and using your senses to compare.

It’s no different from listening to lots of musicians playing and being able to tell good from bad. (Unless they can tell you the origin of the coffee, when and how it was roasted, and grind it fresh for you, which if that happens, then that’s specialty coffee anyway.) The comparison between fresh coffee and stale grocery store coffee is not the difference between preferring EDM over reggae. It’s the difference between preferring someone who can actually make good music and a cat walking on a piano.