# Starbucks workers sue in three states over uncompensated change to dress code

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 18, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164 "2025-09-18T18:52:36Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/61 "2025-09-25T16:42:20Z")

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> [@Ruken](#):
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> And they expose the heel, and are thus not allowed.

Not all Crocs. Some have closed heels.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/62 "2025-09-25T20:16:27Z")

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> [@jjakucyk](#):
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> She was wearing Crocs, which are made of a waterproof material.

Unless you’re getting a specialized version of Crocs, the uppers are completely holey. Not even close to waterproof.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/63 "2025-09-25T20:56:42Z")

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But see if you (or Starbucks) want to be pedantic, then technically Crocs do meet their standard because it doesn’t say anything about the whole shoe being waterproof, just that it needs to be made of a waterproof material.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/64 "2025-09-25T21:02:51Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Not even close to waterproof.

I guess that depends on your definition of “waterproof.” Crocs are rubber, they are absolutely waterproof if the goal is to wear them in water and not damage them. But they will not stop your _feet_ from getting wet.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/65 "2025-09-25T21:44:23Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> I guess that depends on your definition of “waterproof.”

My definition of “waterproof” as applied to shoes is keeps water off feet.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/66 "2025-09-25T21:46:00Z")

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> [@jjakucyk](#):
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> technically Crocs do meet their standard because it doesn’t say anything about the whole shoe being waterproof, just that it needs to be made of a waterproof material.

Let’s just say that the pores in Crocs are extra large. So not waterproof.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/67 "2025-09-25T21:55:37Z")

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The article just says “Crocs” which we all interpret to be the classic clog or sandal designs, Crocs makes a whole line of work shoes though. She could have been wearing something like these, that specifically reference baristas and servers as target customers. These shoes have a closed toe and heel. They are ugly enough to be Crocs.

> **[Crocs On The Clock Work Slip-On](https://www.crocs.com/p/crocs-on-the-clock-work-slip-on/205073.html?cgid=work-shoes&cid=001)**
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> Calling all healthcare and service industry workers: These reinforced work slip-on shoes are a revamped version of Classic Crocs, geared up for the grind. Shop today.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/68 "2025-09-25T21:59:27Z")

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> [@echoreply](#):
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> The article just says “Crocs” which we all interpret to be the classic clog or sandal designs, Crocs makes a whole line of work shoes though.

Yes, as has been mentioned _numerous_ times in this thread. Pretty sure it would have been mentioned if she’d been wearing them.

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/69 "2025-09-25T23:18:28Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> McDonalds gave me a uniform in the old days. I had to give it back when I left.

I seem to remember getting a uniform which they then took out of my paycheck. But this was 25+ years ago.

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/70 "2025-09-26T13:10:36Z")

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I was probaby two decades earlier. I had to gove it back, but I still have my name badge.

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starbucks-workers-sue-in-three-states-over-uncompensated-change-to-dress-code/1023164/71 "2025-09-26T22:02:27Z")

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Workers in approximately 500 Starbucks stores will have more pressing concerns than dress codes.

> **[Starbucks to close stores, lay off workers in $1 billion restructuring plan](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/25/starbucks-restructuring-store-closures-layoffs.html)**
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> Starbucks announced a $1 billion restructuring plan Thursday that involves closing some of its North American coffeehouses and laying off about 900 workers.

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