# Starburst aren't cubes!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 20, 2002, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126 "2002-12-20T22:31:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/1 "2002-12-20T22:31:38Z")

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OK, it’s pretty lame for a first pit rant, but it irks me to no end that new starburst commecials say: “They’re not square, they’re three-dimensional CUBES!”

Nitwits! Look at your product… Then take a 3rd grade geometry class. Then tell me again what shape they are. OK?

I’ll admit rectangular prism doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue, but come on now…

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/2 "2002-12-20T22:36:29Z")

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I’d like to weigh in here in the name of geek solidarity. In memory of our times in M:tG threads and other geekly issues, I join you in denouncing the evils of such ignorant advertising.

So we typed day and night  
by the 60hz flicker  
they have the candy  
but we have geometry

Peace,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/3 "2002-12-20T22:38:18Z")

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Maybe the “cubes” are the nitwits who write that stuff in the ad houses?

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/4 "2002-12-20T22:52:14Z")

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Who in the hell has ever mistaken one for a two-dimensional square anyway? I have never seen anyone try to mail a letter with one by mistake.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/5 "2002-12-20T23:06:35Z")

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Why can’t they be cubes?  
A square is a rectangle, right? Can the same principle be applied to 3 dimensional objects?

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**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/6 "2002-12-20T23:14:08Z")

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:eek:

Ender: Umm square are a special case of a rectangle.

A rectangle is defined as any object with two sets of opposite parrallelelllelel (yes I can’t spell that word) sides.

A square is defined as a rectangle where all sides are of equal length.

So a square IS a rectangle. But by definition a rectangle isn’t a square.

A starburst is a rectangular solid because L, W, H are not all equal values. And if they aren’t all equal values it’s not a cube. It’s a rectangular solid.

If a starburst was made where length width and height were all the same value with it would be both a cube and a rectangular solid, but it isn’t, so it aint.

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**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/7 "2002-12-20T23:17:42Z")

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Sorry, may have jumped the gun… but I was expecting there to be a follow up of: If squares are rectangles, then rectangles are squares so starbursts are square!

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**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/8 "2002-12-20T23:20:34Z")

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Or, you could call them a square prism (which is a subset of rectangular prisms).

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/9 "2002-12-20T23:44:22Z")

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Cuboid

What’s all this rectangular prism stuff I keep seeing; we called 'em cuboids when I was a lad.

Aye it were reet grand in them days.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/10 "2002-12-20T23:45:47Z")

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Thank you **CRorex**. I knew that a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square. The problem was that I have been misinterpreting that phrase.  
I assumed that a square covered any type of object with four straight sides but those with four 90 degree angles and unequal sides were more properly refered to as rectangles.

Thus, I assumed that an object with L:5 and W:3 could be refered to as a square but it was more proper to call it a rectangle. Therein lay my confusion.

So the more accurate statement would be: A square is a (type of) rectangle but a rectangle is not a square (most of the time).

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/11 "2002-12-21T00:09:48Z")

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um. maybe they meant that each rectangular prism is composed of cubes, fused together so as to appear as one big piece?  
no?

huh.  
well, I tried.

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**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/12 "2002-12-21T00:36:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \*  
> \*\*Thank you **CRorex**. I knew that a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square. The problem was that I have been misinterpreting that phrase.  
> I assumed that a square covered any type of object with four straight sides but those with four 90 degree angles and unequal sides were more properly refered to as rectangles.
> 
> Thus, I assumed that an object with L:5 and W:3 could be refered to as a square but it was more proper to call it a rectangle. Therein lay my confusion.
> 
> So the more accurate statement would be: A square is a (type of) rectangle but a rectangle is not a square (most of the time). \*\*

My apologies, I should have reacted less shocked.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/13 "2002-12-21T01:52:06Z")

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This has got to be the geekiest thread I have ever seen in the Pit. 😃

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**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/14 "2002-12-21T06:07:54Z")

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Ah you see, when you stick two them together you get a cube. 😃

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/15 "2002-12-21T06:14:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Diane \*  
> \*\*This has got to be the geekiest thread I have ever seen in the Pit. 😃 \*\*

Oh yeah!! In total agreement \*\*Diane{/b]. ;j

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/16 "2002-12-21T06:17:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by CRorex \*  
> A rectangle is defined as any object with two sets of opposite parrallelelllelel (yes I can’t spell that word) sides.

Ultra-nitpicky:

A quadrilateral is a polygon of four sides.

A quadrilateral whose opposite sides are parallell (can’t spell that either) is a parallellogram.

A parallellogram whose angles are all 90 degrees is a rectangle.

A rectangle whose sides are all the same length is a square.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/17 "2002-12-21T06:47:07Z")

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**friedo** , you forgot:  
A parallelogram with all four sides the same length is a rhombus.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/18 "2002-12-21T07:05:19Z")

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A regular solid with six congruent square faces which is filled by pitiless cyborgs bent on assimilation is a Borg Cube.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/19 "2002-12-21T07:23:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by iamthewalrus(:3= \*  
> \*\ ***friedo** , you forgot:  
> A parallelogram with all four sides the same length is a rhombus. \*\*

Yes but…we were doing the taxonomy of a Square. Rombii branch off in a whole 'nother direction. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starburst-arent-cubes/144126/20 "2002-12-21T08:19:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by friedo \*  
> \*\*Yes but…we were doing the taxonomy of a Square. Rombii branch off in a whole 'nother direction. 🙂 \*\*

Ah. Further evidence of punctuated equilibrium.

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