# Starfield - November 11, 2022. How excited are you? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** video-games-e-games\ **Created:** [August 22, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328 "2021-08-22T21:23:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/221 "2023-09-07T02:41:40Z")
Ok, I’ve put 3hrs and 14min into starfield. It looks pretty and runs fine. But it has yet to draw me in. In fact, both times I sat down to play it today, it made super tired and I had to quit and take a nap. I’ll keep playing though since I haven’t really got much else to do. Especially since all my friends are already deep into it so there won’t be any of the multiplayer stuff going on for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/222 "2023-09-07T02:43:26Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Ok, I’ve put 3hrs and 14min into starfield. It looks pretty and runs fine. But it has yet to draw me in. FWIW: It seems you’re not the only one who feels that way (I am only 2 hours in so do not have an opinion yet…I’ve barely begun). > **[Starfield players agree that its first dozen hours are its weakest: 'OK, 12...](https://www.pcgamer.com/starfield-players-agree-that-its-first-dozen-hours-are-its-weakest-ok-12-hours-in-and-i-love-it/)** > > Don't let its clunky intro scare you away. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/223 "2023-09-07T03:13:13Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Also, I keep picking up all sorts of crap because I not sure what may be useful later…or is it just junk? There is a minor use for it, but still just as sellable junk in a different manner. Upgrading skills after level one requires doing a challenge, and the challenge for bartering is selling unique items(up to 150 for master level eventually). So keeping a couple of each of the trash things makes that process much quicker. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/224 "2023-09-07T04:50:32Z")
I thought BG3 was impressive at ~830,000. Starfield has surpassed that: > > > Xbox @Xbox ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/225 "2023-09-07T05:19:13Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I thought BG3 was impressive at ~830,000. Starfield has surpassed that BG3’s 830k was for Steam players only. Starfield’s 1m was across PC (Game Pass & Steam) and Xbox consoles. Its concurrent players [on Steam](https://steamdb.info/app/1716740/charts/) topped out at 270k. (Obligatory disclaimers that I’m not talking about the merits of either game, just that the two figures aren’t measuring the same thing) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/226 "2023-09-07T07:02:54Z")
I got a chance to dip my toes in the game and I like it. There’s nothing revolutionary so far, it feels like a bunch of other games I’ve played before all mashed up together. But it’s fun and I want to keep playing. And it came with my Game Pass. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/227 "2023-09-07T11:05:28Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Starfield’s 1m was across PC (Game Pass & Steam) and Xbox consoles And a huge chunk of those players are giving it a shot because it’s part of an existing subscription. I’m enjoying Starfield but BG3 outshines it in literally every metric I can think of. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/228 "2023-09-07T12:44:11Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I’m enjoying Starfield but BG3 outshines it in literally every metric I can think of. I agree. I am enjoying Starfield a lot but it lacks the polish that BG3 has. For example, the inventory system in BG3 is not good. In Starfield, it is fucking awful. Just…awful. Shockingly so and the one thing ruining my experience (otherwise I like the game but damn…every time I need to deal with the inventory, which is often, it fucking sucks.) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/229 "2023-09-07T13:05:51Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I honestly don’t get the fuss. How is does being asked in a game what pronouns you prefer make some infuriated (watch the video…infuriated is the correct word)? That’s because you’re not looking for excuses to be Performatively Outraged at All The Wokeness Being Shoved Down Your Throat. Seriously, there’s a whole community out there now who go out of their way to act outraged at everything that even hints at LGBTQ+ or ‘wokeness’ in any media property, purely as a matter of political and/or sociological strategy. They want to drive it all back into the closet, and will shit on anything they have to in order to accomplish that goal. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/230 "2023-09-07T13:55:39Z")
A shortcut I learned for leveling the piloting skill, which requires blowing up lots of ships and is difficult to do if you’re not a pirate. If you decide to join the Vanguard,\* the first thing they do is plop you in a flight simulator to fight waves of ships. You can repeat it as much as you want and your kills there count towards the skill challenge. Now I can pilot my enormous C-class ship. She’s built like a steakhouse but she handles like a bistro. \*I highly recommend it. All the faction questlines have been pretty interesting. I’m in the middle of the Vanguard one now and it’s actually pretty wild. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/231 "2023-09-07T14:39:23Z")
Has anybody found out if it has the mechanic from Oblivion where specialized merchants pay more? Like a weapons dude will only buy weapons, but will pay more for them. But the general merchant(ship side trade kiosk specifically) will buy all types, but pay less. I’m massively over encumbered and don’t want to take hours to walk to a shop to check. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/232 "2023-09-07T14:44:23Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > I’m massively over encumbered and don’t want to take hours to walk to a shop to check. I haven’t been looking too closely at the prices, but it seems to me, most vendors don’t have enough cash on hand to buy all my crap, so I end up cleaning them all out no matter what. Just last night, I think I hoovered up all the available credits in New Atlantis, and I still have some crap in my ship’s hold. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/233 "2023-09-07T14:48:45Z")
What’s the deal with encumbrance? I give my loot to Vasco. He says it is his thing to carry shit. My inventory says I am 0/(some number). But, I cannot fast travel because I am “encumbered.” WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/234 "2023-09-07T14:51:14Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > What’s the deal with encumbrance? > > I give my loot to Vasco. He says it is his thing to carry shit. My inventory says I am 0/(some number). > > But, I cannot fast travel because I am “encumbered.” When you first open the trade menu with VASCO what you see is HIS inventory. So if you empty out that menu you actually take everything FROM him. I wouldn’t expect you to hit 0/X unless you’re naked and unarmed. So that implies to me you’re looking at his inventory. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/235 "2023-09-07T14:53:20Z")
The inventory system in this game SUCKS!!! (I mean really sucks…not just a little fiddly, a little annoying…it fucking sucks!) I usually tolerate mechanics being a little bad but…this is BAD! It frustrates me repeatedly. I’ll have to try the mod @Johnny_Bravo suggested. Other than that I do like the game. Just this one thing annoying me to no end. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/236 "2023-09-07T15:22:08Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > The inventory system in this game SUCKS!!! (I mean really sucks…not just a little fiddly, a little annoying…it fucking sucks!) I usually tolerate mechanics being a little bad but…this is BAD! It frustrates me repeatedly. I hear this a lot, I’m not sure I get it. The inventory system feels identical to every other Bethesda game? I really like that I can send things to my ship on the fly and that when overencumbered rather than being unable to move or only at a slow walk I can run at full speed (just using more stamina). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/237 "2023-09-07T15:22:42Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Just last night, I think I hoovered up all the available credits in New Atlantis, and I still have some crap in my ship’s hold. Sell your crap at Jemisin Mercantile, walk outside, sit down, and wait 48 hours. The shops will reset both their inventory and money. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/238 "2023-09-07T15:38:59Z")
Can you still do the Skyrim trick of dropping your crap on the ground and telling your companion to pick it all up ignoring maximum carrying capacity? Or better yet putting everything in a container for the companion to pick it all up in one action? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/239 "2023-09-07T15:49:16Z")
There’s no way to order companions that I’ve seen. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/240 "2023-09-07T18:59:21Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I really like that I can send things to my ship on the fly… You can do that? How? (really asking…that would help me so much!) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328.md?page=13)