# Starfield - November 11, 2022. How excited are you? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** video-games-e-games\ **Created:** [August 22, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328 "2021-08-22T21:23:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/241 "2023-09-07T19:01:51Z")
For those who like the model building here is the last video in this series (the final touches and model done). There are several videos between the first and this last one. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/eb5ocD1uycE/maxresdefault.jpg "Adam Savage's STARFIELD Spaceship Model Completed!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb5ocD1uycE) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/242 "2023-09-07T19:27:26Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > The inventory system in this game SUCKS!!! (I mean really sucks…not just a little fiddly, a little annoying…it fucking sucks!) I usually tolerate mechanics being a little bad but…this is BAD! It frustrates me repeatedly. I was trying to sell all my crap to a vendor as soon as I found one. But the UI is so bad that when I thought I was selling all of my books to the vendor, I was buying all of _their_ books from _them_. 😡 Atamasama not very happy. (Though I will say that as soon as I got to New Atlantis and could recolor my ship, I was giddy. My ship went from looking boring to looking slick as heck with just a couple of coats of paint.) ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/243 "2023-09-07T19:32:11Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I was trying to sell all my crap to a vendor as soon as I found one. But the UI is so bad that when I thought I was selling all of my books to the vendor, I was buying all of _their_ books from _them_. I literally did the same thing. Walked into a shop with 2500(ish) credits, sold my shit and walked out with 250(ish) credits. An unfortunate surprise. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/244 "2023-09-07T20:27:14Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I was trying to sell all my crap to a vendor as soon as I found one. But the UI is so bad that when I thought I was selling all of my books to the vendor, I was buying all of _their_ books from _them_. 😡 Having Skryim flashbacks, I think. Or Fallout. Some Bethesda game. Edit: This game has a console on PC, anyway. You can certainly add the money back to yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/245 "2023-09-07T20:27:54Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > But the UI is so bad t I mentioned this above, but the game basically requires you to use a controller if you haven’t already figured that out. The UI is still kinda bad with one, but not ungodly terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/246 "2023-09-07T20:32:35Z")
For fun: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LTk5RnLPEYY/maxresdefault.jpg "Starfield from the NPC's Perspective") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTk5RnLPEYY) ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/247 "2023-09-07T20:33:43Z")
I only figured out how to do it with in 250 or , so not very far, if there is a longer distance method I would love to know myself. But the short distance method is to go to main character screen , go to ships(lower left side of circle), open cargo hold which should open you inventory then as you go though your inventory there should be a option to “send to cargo” or something like that ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/248 "2023-09-07T20:42:43Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I mentioned this above, but the game basically requires you to use a controller if you haven’t already figured that out. The UI is still kinda bad with one, but not ungodly terrible. I think I have mentioned this before (somewhere back in the mists of time): Making a game for PC and console at the same time makes the game worse. Any game. Doubtless someone will point out the one time that is not the case but I’ll still believe that. FTR: I have a PS4+ and Switch. While I am PC Masterrace to the end I like my console games too. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/249 "2023-09-07T20:47:09Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I mentioned this above, but the game basically requires you to use a controller if you haven’t already figured that out. I play on Xbox, so… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/250 "2023-09-07T20:51:01Z")
I downloaded it yesterday, but only got about 90 minutes in. Seems cool so far, but I’m already struggling with the story. The part where the guy looking for this, apparently super-important alien artifact, just gives me the artifact, his ship, and his robot buddy, so he can take my place on the shitty mining asteroid just felt _so_ forced, and killed my investment in the story just as it was getting started. Obviously, I’m going to keep playing, but man, that does not give me good vibes for the rest of the main plot. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/251 "2023-09-07T20:59:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Seems cool so far, but I’m already struggling with the story. The part where the guy looking for this, apparently super-important alien artifact, just gives me the artifact, his ship, and his robot buddy, so he can take my place on the shitty mining asteroid just felt _so_ forced, and killed my investment in the story just as it was getting started. I agree. Seemed a bit too easy. “Hi! I just met you, here’s all my stuff!” At a real stretch I think the thing is only you and him have had a psychotic episode when touching the metal and he’s done about as much as he can to figure out what’s happening so he gives you his stuff to take the next step. (He also notes the ship is not his and is owned by people interested in the metal.) It’s not good writing. That’s as generous as I can be with it. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/252 "2023-09-07T21:13:11Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Obviously, I’m going to keep playing, but man, that does not give me good vibes for the rest of the main plot. Like a few Bethesda games, I have heard the faction/guild storylines and sidequests are where the best storylines are. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/253 "2023-09-07T21:21:27Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The part where the guy looking for this, apparently super-important alien artifact, just gives me the artifact, his ship, and his robot buddy, so he can take my place on the shitty mining asteroid just felt _so_ forced, and killed my investment in the story just as it was getting started. To be fair, you are given a lot of opportunities to ask people why someone would just give you an artifact and their ship and immediately sign you up for some exclusive spacefaring society 2 minutes after meeting you randomly. It’s like the people writing the game knew that it was bizarre. I asked the guy who gave it to me, the person running the group, etc. The thing is, the answers were not great, so I’m definitely not defending the writing. 😛 If anyone wants to know the answer, as best as I can figure through dialog… The guy who gave you his stuff is desperate for answers, and other people in Constellation are freaking obsessed with the artifacts. So basically, these do not appear to be fully stable individuals. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/254 "2023-09-07T22:22:58Z")
I think it was a conscious decision to streamline the game start. There really is a lot of game to get your head around after that point, and I assume they decided to just put in a magic-ship-fairy rather than put another couple hours of gatekeeping to get to the point where you start learning to use a ship. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/255 "2023-09-07T22:31:07Z")
“Thanks for your help fending off that pirate attack, but they’re not going to stop as long as you’re here. You’d better take this ship we just captured from the attacking pirates, and get the hell out of here. I’m going to take off towards Vega, try to lure them to follow me instead of you. You take the artifact - they won’t expect me to leave it behind, so they’ll be following me, not you. Get to the Constellation - they’ll know what you should do next. My robot buddy can help you get there.” Gets you to the exact same narrative spot, in the exact same amount of time, while remaining at least broadly plausible as a way human beings might actually act in that sort of a situation. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/256 "2023-09-07T22:36:00Z")
Not the “exact” same narrative point because you wouldn’t be wondering why the hell some guy just left a random person his spaceship. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/257 "2023-09-07T22:48:33Z")
Well, yes, that’s the whole point of wanting a better opening in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/258 "2023-09-08T00:22:50Z")
All this talk of Bethesda game beginnings makes me nostalgic. Let’s pour one out for the Stormcloak soldier who was so impatient that he got executed before Alduin could save him. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/259 "2023-09-08T00:25:31Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I mentioned this above, but the game basically requires you to use a controller if you haven’t already figured that out. Boy, am I glad I haven’t bought it yet. If I need a controller for my PC to play this, never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/260 "2023-09-08T00:28:46Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Boy, am I glad I haven’t bought it yet. If I need a controller for my PC to play this, never mind. I use mouse and keyboard. Seems fine. Is a controller better? I dunno… I’ll never try. I have a controller I can use with my PC but I am mouse and keyboard all the way on my PC. (I bought my controller for some racing game and NieR: Automata I think…been a while…I haven’t used it in four years on my PC at least) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328.md?page=14)