# Starfield - November 11, 2022. How excited are you? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** video-games-e-games\ **Created:** [August 22, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328 "2021-08-22T21:23:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/521 "2024-04-17T22:10:20Z")
Did the update ever come that would improve maps in cities and stuff? I thought they were massively updating this game at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/522 "2024-04-18T13:54:06Z")
More side quests have been added in “Activities”; so far, I’ve noticed one alternate map in those. Couldn’t use the usual tactic of sneaking around in the maintenance tunnel because the front half wasn’t there. Weather effects have been improved and pretty much everywhere has enhanced lighting now. Several times, I’ve been on a side quest and could hardly see a thing outside due to the weather + the new lighting. Sense Star Stuff comes in really handy in those situations. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/523 "2024-05-16T18:17:50Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Did the update ever come that would improve maps in cities and stuff? I thought they were massively updating this game at some point. That update is out! Lots of quality of life improvements. Official notes: > **[Starfield Update 1.11.36 - May 15, 2024](https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield/article/174M0cdUyxhn9mI0AvkcN9/starfield-update-1-11-33-may-1-2024)** > > Starfield latest update is available for download now. Get all the details on the host of new features and fixes included in the update. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/524 "2025-01-11T05:55:28Z")
Edit: Maybe my ships aren’t broken after all? Just reloaded from Steam and ship view is no longer stuck in an infinite loading spin. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/525 "2025-01-11T06:36:39Z")
At least for the new game, anyway; have yet to leave Vectera so I don’t know if ship technicians still have the infinite loading loop when trying to buy or sell ships. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/526 "2025-01-11T21:30:49Z")
Yeah, I’m done with the game. It’s been a good 1100 hours but I can’t continue playing with the chance that my ability modify or change ships suddenly disappears. Tried an alternate start that I found in Creation Club; this comes with the ability to select a ship at start but I’m stuck with the Frontier. Everything else has that infinite loop. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/527 "2025-01-12T00:29:55Z")
Woah! Maybe I fixed it? Tried something I hadn’t before: deleting the the folders for Nexus mods except the custom.ini file. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/528 "2025-01-12T18:53:01Z")
I never got the game. Is it “Skyrim in Space”? I wonder if I should check it out at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/529 "2025-01-12T19:05:30Z")
Personally, it felt more like “Skyrim in the empty vacuum of space”. It was occasional fun punctuated by large sections of absolutely nothing. I thought Outer Worlds was much more compelling (though that’s more Fallout in space than Skyrim). Both are on Gamepass if you want to try them before committing. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/530 "2025-01-12T22:20:31Z")
I played Outer Worlds and all of its DLC’s. Great game, hope the second one is even bigger. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/531 "2025-01-12T23:03:16Z")
> [@Reply](#): > > It was occasional fun punctuated by large sections of absolutely nothing. You’re underselling it. It also had large sections of doing the same damn map over and over and over and over again. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/532 "2025-01-13T00:07:40Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > You’re underselling it. It also had large sections of doing the same damn map over and over and over and over again. That was the basic problem with the game; there were very few unique combat experiences. It was the same half dozen battles over and over and over, all of them very easy. Same maps, same enemies. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/533 "2025-01-13T04:27:35Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Is it “Skyrim in Space”? Superficially, yes. It has some of the feel of an Elder Scrolls game. Just with the skin of scifi on it. You also have a pretty neat ship builder and outpost builder, which was probably the most fun part for me. But the combat, mission, and stories aren’t great. The complaints in this thread are valid. It’s like a mediocre Elder Scrolls game in space, with mediocre space combat added. I will repeat though, I _really_ like the ship building. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/534 "2025-01-13T08:23:45Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Same maps, same enemies. And that’s where Skyrim shined. While it’s true that every dungeon in Tamriel looked like it was furnished by one of the same three interior designers, they all _felt_ different somehow. With Starfield, I’d walk over a hill, see a building and think, “Ugh, THIS again.” ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/535 "2025-01-13T08:32:20Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I will repeat though, I _really_ like the ship building. Two things I did love about the game: the ship builder, and the [Magshear](https://starfield.fandom.com/wiki/Magshear) machine gun, which for some reason was one of the most satisfying weapons I’ve ever used in an FPS. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/536 "2025-01-13T12:46:26Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > It was the same half dozen battles over and over and over, all of them very easy. Same maps, same enemies. To be honest, I would probably say the same thing about The Outer Worlds: not many different enemies and not many different environments. (I still like it, though.) Starfield is on my list of games to get if I ever get around to buying a newer-gen machine capable of playing it. I suspect I’d like it at least as much as Skyrim, which I was lukewarm on. ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/537 "2025-01-13T14:00:51Z")
For me, Starfield lacked one of the things I love about Skyrim and Fallout: I can just _walk_ in any direction and find something interesting, if not surprising. I _love_ that aspect of these games, and it keeps me coming back. In Starfield, you can walk outside the city gates, but aren’t likely to find much. And if you travel to a procedurally generated planet, you’ll only find the same facilities you’ve seen on other planets, with miles of nothing in-between. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/538 "2025-01-13T14:39:36Z")
> [@hogarth](#): > > To be honest, I would probably say the same thing about The Outer Worlds: not many different enemies and not many different environments. (I still like it, though.) It’s been awhile since I played Outer Worlds but it, too, felt shallow. Neither has the depth, replayability, or personality of a game like Fallout. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/539 "2025-01-13T15:30:26Z")
Somebody who’s been playing Skyrim for the last decade and expects the same evergreen experience is going to be deeply disappointed by this game. As its own thing, it’s perfectly fine. I played it through exactly one time and enjoyed it quite a lot; sone of the quest lines are truly excellent. It falls apart quickly in the procedural and recycled content, but I’m happy to chalk that up to studios making unrealistic attempts to satisfy unrealistic player expectations that even single player games need to have endless content. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/540 "2025-01-13T15:41:22Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > It also had large sections of doing the same damn map over and over and over and over again. There is a bit of variety now, as mentioned above. > [@Skywatcher](#): > > I’ve noticed one alternate map in [a side quest]. Couldn’t use the usual tactic of sneaking around in the maintenance tunnel because the front half wasn’t there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328.md?page=28)