# Starfield - November 11, 2022. How excited are you?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** video-games-e-games\
**Created:** [August 22, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328 "2021-08-22T21:23:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/101 "2023-07-20T21:57:20Z")

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You know that, and I know that. But absolute first time players who haven’t looked at the Nukapedia or other sources? And who jump down and get the minigun to overheat (not knowing it does that)? Yeah, it can easily kill characters, especially ones that ran straight down the hill from Sanctuary without doing much else.

And I realize we’re getting pretty far afield from Starfield, although I fully expect it to be the same bug ridden Bethesda mess that we’ve grown used to for the first month or so, yet another reason to wait a while rather than pre-order and be an unpaid beta tester.

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/102 "2023-07-20T22:19:41Z")

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Received and updated. My edits were a bit of a mess…I had “ass” for “as” and fucked up the spoiler tags myself first go around… It’s one of those days.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/103 "2023-07-20T22:25:45Z")

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-deep bow-

No apologies needed, I was the one who screwed it up and made work for you. I managed to spoiler one of two links, mention the spoilers, but NOT the NSFW. You’re way ahead of my game today.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/104 "2023-08-01T19:18:49Z")

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Starfield will only require Xbox and PC users to buy one copy and they can play on both systems. I only have PC, so I don’t care, but if you did have both, that’s neat. And should honestly be more common.

Any other games offer this?

> **[Starfield Will Support One Of Xbox’s Lowkey Best Features](https://kotaku.com/starfield-xbox-series-x-s-pc-play-anywhere-game-pass-1850695407)**
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> With ‘play anywhere,’ console and PC owners only have to buy sci-fi RPG once

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/105 "2023-08-01T19:33:54Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Starfield will only require Xbox and PC users to buy one copy and they can play on both systems.

But will you still need a “gaming PC” to even run it? After many years of mostly using my Xbox for gaming, I started looking into upgrading my PC so I could play the new Kerbal Space Program, but they were so insanely expensive, I just gave up on the idea.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/106 "2023-08-01T19:38:45Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> But will you still need a “gaming PC” to even run it? After many years of mostly using my Xbox for gaming, I started looking into upgrading my PC so I could play the new Kerbal Space Program, but they were so insanely expensive, I just gave up on the idea

My gaming laptop was $1000 three years ago and I hope it runs it. I’m not sure how powerful it will require.

If you get a copy, just play on Xbox, I guess? Both models of Xbox will run it, but not the previous gen.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/107 "2023-08-01T19:54:31Z")

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If you buy it through Microsoft, I assume, which is a big Hell No from me. Awful user interface.

I’ll play it on Windows Game Pass at release as part of the subscription service, but when I buy games (and I’m sure I’ll buy this one in a year or two once the modding scene has transformed it into something altogether new) it’ll be on Steam.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/108 "2023-08-01T19:54:54Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> My gaming laptop was $1000 three years ago and I hope it runs it.

I looked at gaming laptops for KSP 2, and couldn’t find any that met the required standards to play the game. The non-laptops were much more expensive than that. Especially when you factor in the last three years of economic insanity into the price.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/109 "2023-08-01T20:20:45Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> If you buy it through Microsoft, I assume, which is a big Hell No from me. Awful user interface.

Yes, the article indicates your Steam copy won’t work like that.

I have never used the Microsoft store, but I don’t have an Xbox, so I’m just buying whatever is cheapest after I wait to see how well received it is.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/110 "2023-08-01T22:46:56Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> After many years of mostly using my Xbox for gaming, I started looking into upgrading my PC so I could play the new Kerbal Space Program, but they were so insanely expensive, I just gave up on the idea.

I got a very good deal on a Lenovo Legion PC, much cheaper than Alienware and I’ve never had any performance issues. I’ve owned Alienware and I’ve installed my own graphics card and SSD but it was such a pain I just decided to start buying them.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/111 "2023-08-02T00:04:21Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I got a very good deal on a Lenovo Legion PC, much cheaper than Alienware and I’ve never had any performance issues. I’ve owned Alienware and I’ve installed my own graphics card and SSD but it was such a pain I just decided to start buying them.

I own a Lenovo Ideapad L340 and I’ve played recent games like Elden Ring, Hogwarts Legacy, and a few others on decent graphical settings. Not “Ultra” and it does not do ray-tracing, but I don’t care. I just want smooth gameplay and decent graphics. I get that.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/112 "2023-08-28T23:51:40Z")

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Well it is 4 days or so to early release(Sept 1st if you have premium) 9 days till regular release. I am far more hyped than I have been for any game in a long time.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/113 "2023-08-28T23:53:40Z")

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Evening of Aug 31 in the US if you have premium.

Excited for it too but I am being cautious. I’ll wait for reviews.

[![](https://assetsio.reedpopcdn.com/starfield-launch-times-map-1.jpg) ](https://assetsio.reedpopcdn.com/starfield-launch-times-map-1.jpg)

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/114 "2023-08-29T00:00:07Z")

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I have had gamepass for a while so standard was essentially free , I decided to throw the premium upgrade\* on top mostly so I can hide in a cave with Pizza and beer over the long weekend and hopefully regain some chill.

\*30 bucks for the upgrade seems like a bargain compared to telling certain people what I reaaaaaally want to and losing my job. 😉

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/115 "2023-08-29T00:02:11Z")

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Early buzz is that it is quite good. I have yet to hear full-blown raves, but I don’t think Bethesda has blown it big time. Microsoft had them take another year to make it as bug free as possible. I heard a leaker said he has played 15 hours and not seen a bug. I’m sure there will be some, but not a disaster.

I bet it will be a big hit. Being as big as Skyrim is a hard thing to achieve, but it should be a good release for Bethesda.

I liked Fallout 4, though. It was less good than 3 and New Vegas, but not as bad as some claimed.

I’ll wait until next summer or so to play Starfield and then it should be a lot of fun.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/116 "2023-08-29T00:09:59Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I’ll wait until next summer or so to play Starfield…

Why? Bugs?

Skyrim came out in 2011 and it is still $40-50.

You are not going to save money unless it really sucks.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/117 "2023-08-29T00:20:16Z")

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I’m a teacher. I wait until June for the biggest games.

I have a Switch I take to work for after the students leave. I wait at school 45 minutes then before picking up my son and I play Switch games since they are mobile.

For PC game like this, I’d have to cart my laptop up there. I _might_ do that, but probably not.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/118 "2023-08-29T01:22:17Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Skyrim came out in 2011 and it is still $40-50.

Oh give me a break, you know this is disingenuous, skyrim has been under $10 about 300 times. Pretending that you have to pay retail price for PC games for 10 years is absurd. You’d definitely save money waiting a year.

Sorry if this has been covered but does anyone know how the gamepass version works with mods? I guess they may have a built-in mod installer in the game (like a steam workshop style) (which may suck if they exert a lot of control over which mods qualify), but on the other hand the windows store/gamepass obscures files in such a nasty way that it would probably make conventional modding useless. There has never been a bethesda game that I considered playable unmodded so I don’t know whether I’ll play it on gamepass or not.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/119 "2023-08-29T01:23:39Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Oh give me a break, you know this is disingenuous…

$40…right now. Today. I do not see a cheaper version available on Steam.

https://store.steampowered.com/widget/489830

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfield-november-11-2022-how-excited-are-you/949328/120 "2023-08-29T01:26:17Z")

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Dude, it is on sale _frequently_. I spent maybe $14 on it when I bought Skyrim last year.

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