# Starfleet uniforms which series is the best?

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**Created:** [August 16, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994 "2016-08-16T15:48:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/1 "2016-08-16T15:48:42Z")

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[Original Series](http://www.thesnipenews.com/thegutter/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/star-trek-original-cast-i-mudd.jpg) [TNG](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kEYT-WmU0fc/TyYfZKl4fKI/AAAAAAAAHOM/PdRgY7grC8Q/s1600/Star-Trek-The-Next-Generation-star-trek-the-next-generation-9406205-2275-1524.jpg)[DS9/Voyager](http://uploads.neatorama.com/images/posts/931/51/51931/1346717287-0.jpg) [Enterprise](http://www.blankmaninc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/enterprise-cast.jpg) [New Movie Series](http://www.thescifishow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/jj-abrams-cast-star-trek-into-darkness-kirk.jpg)

So I personally prefer the DS9 style uniforms, they seem to be a bit understated and look more like work uniforms, for that reason I also like the Enterprise Uniforms as they look like they might actually have pockets.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/2 "2016-08-16T15:52:30Z")

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None of the above. Nothing beats the uniforms in ST:TMP.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/3 "2016-08-16T16:07:01Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> None of the above. Nothing beats the uniforms in ST:TMP.

The penguin suits? Yeah right.

Anyway, I like the black jumpsuits for practical work uniforms.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/4 "2016-08-16T16:44:30Z")

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Liked the DS9 look. But I think that Voyager, due to being lost in the Delta Quadrant, never updated from the old TNG outfits. That’s just from memory, I could be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/5 "2016-08-16T16:47:15Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> The penguin suits? Yeah right.

No! The [pajamas](http://trekcore.com/specials/rare/cast_tmp01.jpg)…

(Yes, kidding.)

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/6 "2016-08-16T16:54:22Z")

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I agree that the ENTERPRISE uniforms looked the most like practical jumpsuits for astronauts who need to stash useful items in their pockets.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/7 "2016-08-16T16:58:06Z")

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But the red uniforms with the shoulder clasp are by far the spiffiest.

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**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/8 "2016-08-16T16:59:56Z")

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I liked Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock era uniforms. They looked more classically naval, with a fold-over ‘lapel’ on the chest that exposed a white patch of fabric that you could dramatically smear blood on.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/9 "2016-08-16T17:02:14Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> I liked Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock era uniforms. They looked more classically naval, with a fold-over ‘lapel’ on the chest that exposed a white patch of fabric that you could dramatically smear blood on.

I agree. I like the shoulder strap, too.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/10 "2016-08-16T17:33:58Z")

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I like the bright original series ones the best.

In terms of what would be mode comfortable, probably the Enterprise ones.

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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/11 "2016-08-16T17:47:57Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Liked the DS9 look. But I think that Voyager, due to being lost in the Delta Quadrant, never updated from the old TNG outfits. That’s just from memory, I could be wrong.

[Voyager](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nBB6gfiBXiI/Ua-es4MIT4I/AAAAAAAAIC8/C4S1DSyV32E/s1600/cast-of-star-trek-voyager-5.jpg) had early [ds9](http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/DS9-cast.jpg#geekosystem) uniforms

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/12 "2016-08-16T17:52:19Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> I liked Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock era uniforms. They looked more classically naval, with a fold-over ‘lapel’ on the chest that exposed a white patch of fabric that you could dramatically smear blood on.

More like marching band uniforms, I’d say. ☹

I liked the later _ **TNG** _ uniforms with the waisted tunics. _ **Voyager** _’s uniforms were sharp too.

If I could only have one, though, I’d want _ **TOS** _’s.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/13 "2016-08-16T18:01:28Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> If I could only have one, though, I’d want _ **TOS** _’s.

Green or gold?

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/14 "2016-08-16T18:01:37Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> [Voyager](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nBB6gfiBXiI/Ua-es4MIT4I/AAAAAAAAIC8/C4S1DSyV32E/s1600/cast-of-star-trek-voyager-5.jpg) had early [ds9](http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/DS9-cast.jpg#geekosystem) uniforms

And they looked like they had some (replicated?) cotton or wool to them. Some of the polyester specials? I honestly felt bad for the actors.

Honestly, working all day on a set in a “polyester special” uniform must have made every single person on board smell like feet.

“Captain! We have a containment field breach at the Sonic Showers! Reports are coming in of crewmen passing out within two decks of the affected area!”  
“Erect an emergency Level 9 Containment field around the sonic showers and flood all the affected decks with Lysol Gas. I’m on my way…”

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/15 "2016-08-16T18:29:46Z")

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I always liked the movie uniforms starting with **Wrath of Khan** - they were a good blend of the traditional with the futuristic.

I suspect, based on the uniforms worn on submarines (blue coveralls with rank insignia) that the \*Enterprise \*uniforms are the most likely uniforms to be worn shipboard. But I’d think they’d bust out the dress uniforms when meeting new species, etc…

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/16 "2016-08-16T18:38:58Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> Green or gold?

Gotta admit, I liked the (apparent) gold tunics better than the green.

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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/17 "2016-08-16T18:47:22Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> And they looked like they had some (replicated?) cotton or wool to them. Some of the polyester specials? I honestly felt bad for the actors.
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> Honestly, working all day on a set in a “polyester special” uniform must have made every single person on board smell like feet.
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> “Captain! We have a containment field breach at the Sonic Showers! Reports are coming in of crewmen passing out within two decks of the affected area!”  
> “Erect an emergency Level 9 Containment field around the sonic showers and flood all the affected decks with Lysol Gas. I’m on my way…”

Makes you wonder, if the sonic showers clean without water then could you just wear your clothes in it and never have to change.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/18 "2016-08-16T18:54:49Z")

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I feel like the JJ reboot uniforms are as close to TOS as it’s possible to be and not just copy directly. There is something very cinematically appealing about those bright colors and simple shapes, and I like them best as far as a straight visual design choice. Unfortunately micro-mini skirts don’t lend themselves to me looking polished and professional. That length makes me feel and look like I should be on a street-corner, regardless of the amazing feats that both Nichols and Saldana have pulled off.

For actually wearing every day in a job where I need to make a good first impression and be diplomatic and attractive and polished? As a woman, I’m going to pick the TNG jumpsuits. That high black/dark shoulder line makes just about everyone look good (the DS9 version is too low), and the later seasons they had a very nicely tucked waist that ought to be a good encouragement to keep in shape, and a decent visual assist if one doesn’t quite manage it.

For working in/practicality, I’d say that the Enterprise jumpsuits are the most reasonable, but God Damn they’re boring and unattractive to look at.

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**Author:** ![Yodalicious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yodalicious/32/8195_2.png) [@Yodalicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yodalicious)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/19 "2016-08-16T18:55:18Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> No! The [pajamas](http://trekcore.com/specials/rare/cast_tmp01.jpg)…
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> (Yes, kidding.)

Except for the giant belt buckle, Kirk’s grey and white uniform when he first arrives on the Enterprise is not bad. However, my favorites are the unies from Wrath of Kahn, Voyager, and First Contact.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/20 "2016-08-16T19:57:31Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> Green or gold?

Excellent question! — [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=801356](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=801356)

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