# Starfleet uniforms which series is the best?

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**Created:** [August 16, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994 "2016-08-16T15:48:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> I liked Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock era uniforms. They looked more classically naval, with a fold-over ‘lapel’ on the chest that exposed a white patch of fabric that you could dramatically smear blood on.

Not white for everyone - different colors for different branches of Starfleet:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MPQvVBaOx2E/maxresdefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MPQvVBaOx2E/maxresdefault.jpg)  
[http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/\_\_cb20120316184334/memoryalpha/en/images/e/ec/Montgomery\_Scott,\_Generations.jpg](http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120316184334/memoryalpha/en/images/e/ec/Montgomery_Scott,_Generations.jpg)  
[http://www.20thfleet.org.uk/McCoy.jpg](http://www.20thfleet.org.uk/McCoy.jpg)  
[http://trekcore.com/specials/rare/takei\_sulu03.jpg](http://trekcore.com/specials/rare/takei_sulu03.jpg)  
[![](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pUkWQlFLhuo/V4L0nWNeIwI/AAAAAAAAGKs/z2rDu8WF6K0bUuPZ8IfMrCLHAaWY8CipQCLcB/s1600/star-trek-ii-the-wrath-of-khan-4.jpg) ](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pUkWQlFLhuo/V4L0nWNeIwI/AAAAAAAAGKs/z2rDu8WF6K0bUuPZ8IfMrCLHAaWY8CipQCLcB/s1600/star-trek-ii-the-wrath-of-khan-4.jpg)

> [@terentii](#):
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> …I liked the later _ **TNG** _ uniforms with the waisted tunics…

That got my vote.

[![](https://timsfilmreviews.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/captain-jean-luc-picard-crew.jpg) ](https://timsfilmreviews.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/captain-jean-luc-picard-crew.jpg)

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I liked the ones that started in Wrath of Khan the best, with the Season 3 through 7 TNG uniforms in second. Picard’s “captain’s jacket” was particularly cool, I thought.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/23 "2016-08-16T21:13:30Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> More like marching band uniforms, I’d say. ☹

I knew there was a reason I liked those uniforms! (the TWK and SFS uniforms). I believe those same uniforms returned for _The Undiscovered Country_, too.)

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**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/24 "2016-08-16T22:17:23Z")

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I like the classic Voyager ones (mainly black with colored shoulder yokes) the most, but it’s also what I’m most familiar with so my nostalgia may be talking. ST:TNG’s classic style (black shoulders/pants, colored chest) is also good. Not a fan of the stylized ones in OP’s post for TNG.

The Wrath of Khan/Search for Spock ones are pretty dope too, though they kinda clash with the idea of the officers constantly going on dangerous away missions. And I wish they had more color variety than just red.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/25 "2016-08-16T22:34:24Z")

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If female, TOS.

If male, DS9.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/26 "2016-08-16T22:37:28Z")

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I liked the late-season DS9 ones the best, the ones that made their debut in Star Trek: First Contact. But Voyager never wore those, I don’t think.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/27 "2016-08-16T22:57:51Z")

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TOS season one. The TNG Captains jacket. First Contact unis.

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/28 "2016-08-16T23:03:06Z")

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> [@magnusblitz](#):
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> The Wrath of Khan/Search for Spock ones are pretty dope too, though they kinda clash with the idea of the officers constantly going on dangerous away missions. And I wish they had more color variety than just red.

They have cozy-looking field jackets for landing parties.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/29 "2016-08-17T01:13:45Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> They have cozy-looking field jackets for landing parties.

Yup: [http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad31/Felgacarb/ST%20TWOK%20Jacket/Kirk-1.jpg](http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad31/Felgacarb/ST%20TWOK%20Jacket/Kirk-1.jpg)

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/30 "2016-08-17T01:20:50Z")

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Whichever one 7 of 9 was in.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/31 "2016-08-17T02:30:05Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Whichever one 7 of 9 was in.

She didn’t wear a Starfleet uniform.

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I voted for the VOY/DS9 uniforms, but if it was an option I’d have selected the TOS era movie uniforms (excluding TMP, they were ridiculous).

> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Whichever one 7 of 9 was in.

That wasn’t an actual uniform; it was something the Doctor designed for her because after removing most of her Borg implants she needed to wear a skintight garment to help with thermal regulation and high heels for other legitimate medical reasons.

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> She didn’t wear a Starfleet uniform.

> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> I voted for the VOY/DS9 uniforms, but if it was an option I’d have selected the TOS era movie uniforms (excluding TMP, they were ridiculous).
> 
> That wasn’t an actual uniform; it was something the Doctor designed for her because after removing most of her Borg implants she needed to wear a skintight garment to help with thermal regulation and high heels for other legitimate medical reasons.

I guess that shows how much I paid attention to the plot.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/34 "2016-08-17T02:42:26Z")

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I don’t like the Dickie look. I like the stylishness of TNG or the utilitarianism of Enterprise.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/35 "2016-08-17T02:51:07Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> So I personally prefer the DS9 style uniforms, they seem to be a bit understated and look more like work uniforms, for that reason I also like the Enterprise Uniforms as they look like they might actually have pockets.

I agree with this. I haven’t decided which of the two to vote for.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/36 "2016-08-17T03:07:30Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> I liked the late-season DS9 ones the best, the ones that made their debut in Star Trek: First Contact. But Voyager never wore those, I don’t think.

Funny thing is that the uniforms from first contact were actually DS9 uniforms. They didn’t even bother to have them fitted.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starfleet-uniforms-which-series-is-the-best/762994/37 "2016-08-17T03:16:44Z")

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> [@drewder](#):
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> Funny thing is that the uniforms from first contact were actually DS9 uniforms. They didn’t even bother to have them fitted.

If you watch “Rapture”, Sisko’s new plum-colored uniform is badly fitted to him or… something! He had his combadge up on the purple shoulder area.

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TNG had at least 2 separate styles of uniform.

The second version - with a collar, less saturated coloured section, actually cut to fit the actors - was great, as was the DS9/Voyager version, which was the same thing with the colours moved to the shoulders.

The Enterprise uniforms are OK, but slightly bland-functional.

The TOS and movie-verse versions are right behind the late-TNG/DS9/Voy set.

The early TNG uniforms are trash.

The TOS-movie-era officer uniforms are nice (other uniforms were kind of 70s-awful), but the division colours were both too muted and too minor a bit of the design (especially with the smaller collars some of the TNG-flashback uniforms had), so it’d be forgivable to forget that they actually existed (also, they were given a reshuffle that didn’t connect to the the colours on either side at all), which loses them some points.

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> TNG had at least 2 separate styles of uniform.
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> The second version - with a collar, less saturated coloured section, actually cut to fit the actors - was great, as was the DS9/Voyager version, which was the same thing with the colours moved to the shoulders.

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> The early TNG uniforms are trash.

Well, yeah; the early ones lack a tunic Patrick Stewart can tug on when he stands up.

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> She didn’t wear a Starfleet uniform.

Not very often, anyway: [http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/c/c5/Seven\_of\_Nine\_Relativity.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070713193008&path-prefix=en](http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/c/c5/Seven_of_Nine_Relativity.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070713193008&path-prefix=en)

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