# Stargate: SG1 "200" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 19, 2006, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376 "2006-08-19T21:33:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/1 "2006-08-19T21:33:22Z")
It was corny and cheesy and silly and I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT. The Farscape bit cracked me up. I also enjoyed the hour long special that they showed right before the episode. I wonder how many people will knock this episode, though, for not being a “serious episode”. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/2 "2006-08-19T21:41:48Z")
It was fun. A total kiss-on-the-lips to the fans, as I knew it would be. Anyone who wants to be a sourpuss about it probably hasn’t been a fan of the show very long. I’ve been with these guys since the beginning! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/3 "2006-08-19T22:20:52Z")
Really funny. Especially the “wedding” between Carter and O’Neil (complete with Reverend Thor 😃 ). But was Martin telling the cast of Wormhole eXetreme that the movie was back own during their 200th episode Wright/Cooper’s way of telling us that Stargate II was back on 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/4 "2006-08-19T22:24:43Z")
I loved it. My favorite idea was the puppets. ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/5 "2006-08-19T22:30:23Z")
So they even recycled Wormhole Xtreme. Great. The shark has jumped … through the gate. :rolleyes: They’re on their third(or is it fourth?) set of **scary bad guys**. They’re recycling star trek scripts, they’re even recycling star gate scripts. They’ve even got a nascent form of starfleet going, and they’ve replicated the old Roddenbury strategy of running multiple franchises…So they can rehash the tired ideas twice as quickly … with generous opportunities for cast crossovers. I can hardly wait for **CSI:Star Gate**. Still, it’s preferable to the new tendency of SciFi to rely on ultra-low budget F-grade schlock-fests produced on the cheap in Eastern Europe. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2006, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/6 "2006-08-19T23:03:42Z")
I think my favorite was the “edgy” Ti’lk. “Dude, she was so totally a Goauld.” “Yeah, but I would have tapped it anyway.” Puppet skit went on too long. That bit about the “previous guy phoning it in” was pretty funny. I do like their self-referential jokes in the Wormhole Extreme episodes. “Why must everything in this script explode?” “The singularity is about to explode. Weapons on maximum.” “Everything about that sentence was wrong.” ---
**Author:** ![DrunkOnion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ab097/32.png) [@DrunkOnion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrunkOnion)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/7 "2006-08-20T01:23:02Z")
I didn’t care for 200, but then I didn’t care for 100… I’ve watched it from day one. I even TiVo the reruns to watch in the morning before work. I guess I’m not much for comedy or parody ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/8 "2006-08-20T02:07:33Z")
I thought it was hilarious. Didn’t like the ending as much as I could have, but the rest was great. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/9 "2006-08-20T03:06:12Z")
I love these kinds of episodes. The ‘Farscape’ segment had me rolling–I’d watch a whole episode of that! I thought the invisible O’Neill segment was pretty good, too. I’ve only been watching the show steadily for the past couple of years, and i"ve watched a lot of reruns of earlier seasons. But I was totally whooshed thinking that this was from an episode I hadn’t seen yet. Then I watched the ‘making of’ special about _200_ and saw that it was just a gag done for this episode. And I liked the bit about ‘hanging a lantern’ on a plot point, which they use too frequently on the show. (The example given was when a character is beamed out of danger at the last second, and says upon rematerializing, “Well, that was convenient.”) [QUOTE=cerberus] So they even recycled Wormhole Xtreme. Great. The shark has jumped … through the gate. They’re on their third(or is it fourth?) set of scary bad guys. They’re recycling star trek scripts, they’re even recycling star gate scripts. They’ve even got a nascent form of starfleet going, and they’ve replicated the old Roddenbury strategy of running multiple franchises…So they can rehash the tired ideas twice as quickly … with generous opportunities for cast crossovers. I can hardly wait for CSI:Star Gate. Still, it’s preferable to the new tendency of SciFi to rely on ultra-low budget F-grade schlock-fests produced on the cheap in Eastern Europe. [/QUOTE] So, did you even watch this episode? Or did you just come in here to threadcrap? ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/10 "2006-08-20T19:05:10Z")
My husband and I are big SG-1 fans, and we’d been looking forward to this episode ever since it was announced. We were tickled by it, and plan to watch it again. My only gripe is that I wish the show had been longer so that more parodies could have been worked in. It would have been great to see the “Gilligan’s Island” ripoff that Vala proposed verbally. Vala would obviously be Ginger, with Samantha Carter as Mary Ann. Teal’c would be the Skipper, Daniel Jackson the Professor. Hmmm. Who the heck would be Gilligan? If this is shark-jumping, I wish they would rev up that motorcycle and hop the fish more often. ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/11 "2006-08-20T19:52:34Z")
Ach. So only _favourable posts are welcome here_. I didn’t see that requirement published. Perhpas we could re-label it the **Glassner/Wright Worship Thread**. Do I need to wear my SG-1 Jacket while reading this thread? :rolleyes: There are those of us who enjoyed SG1 before it tapped itself out and started cannibaliising both itself and other SF series. It is customary for those who watched the show, from the beginning, to be saddened somewhat by watching what used to be an edgy, relevant example of what SF could be, into yet another, self-celebratory, endlessly vanilla repetitive orgy of recycled plotlines and abuse of special effects. :dubious: Having said that, yes, the episode was funny, for what it was. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/12 "2006-08-20T21:04:22Z")
[QUOTE=pinkfreud] Who the heck would be Gilligan? [/QUOTE] Mitchell. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/13 "2006-08-20T21:24:42Z")
[QUOTE=RikWriter] Mitchell. [/QUOTE] My vote goes to Walter. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/14 "2006-08-20T22:42:05Z")
[QUOTE=MikeG] My vote goes to Walter. [/QUOTE] What, no love for Jonas? 😃 Also, was the bit about the ad in Variety a Crusade reference, or am I just being too geeky here? ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2006, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/15 "2006-08-20T22:44:30Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] Really funny. Especially the “wedding” between Carter and O’Neil (complete with Reverend Thor 😃 ). But was Martin telling the cast of Wormhole eXetreme that the movie was back own during their 200th episode Wright/Cooper’s way of telling us that Stargate II was back on 😕 [/QUOTE] Actually, the last I heard, Stargate II is being moved back to a front burner, but it’s gonna be in the Movie Stargate universe, not the SG1 universe. I’m hoping it happens, and I’m hoping it’s good 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Roadfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@Roadfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roadfood)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/16 "2006-08-21T03:41:53Z")
Overall, it was enjoyable. I agree with a previous poster, though, that the puppet sketch went on too long. It was great, for a minute, the puppets were interesting (not the typical Gerry Anderson variety), but it just wasn’t very funny. The worst part of the episode, though, was the ending. The Wormhole Extreme people go on and on and on and on and . . . Sorry, I guess it just FELT like that segment went on for an entire extra hour. It was so totally unfunny. I mean, the real interviews with the real cast members in the preceeding special were interesting. The interviews with the fake Wormhole Extreme cast members was just dull, dull, dull. Was there supposed to be some point to that that I missed? I was glad to see that Walter did indeed make it into the episode. The most glaring omission was the giant wrench. I was looking for it in the background of most of the shots, but never saw it. Did I miss it, or did DeLouise and Co. just unceremoniously leave out one of the most beloved props of all time? ---
**Author:** ![Roadfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@Roadfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roadfood)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/17 "2006-08-21T03:56:26Z")
Oh, and I have to agree with **cerberus**. I considered **Stargate SG-1** to be the best thing on TV for a long time, but it declined as Richard Dean Anderson slowly bowed out. I think Ben Browder fills his shoes like a Volkswagon in a dirigible hanger, but I was willing to stay with it for the rest of the cast. But now that it’s truly become “Fargate”, with that cloyingly annoying woman, it’s just not worth it; they’re giving more and more screen time to her and less and less to the surviving original three. The Ori are a Gua’uld retread, and the show just doesn’t have anything more to say, it’s recycling itself over and over. I’ve been watching seasons 1 and 2 on DVD, and the comparison between the greatness that it once was and the mediocrity that it now is is striking. And sad, really. ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/18 "2006-08-21T04:24:48Z")
🙂 **Fargate** … that’s good. **GateTrek** also works … Thing is, I like that “annoying woman,” and the characters and scripts work just fine: in their original Star Trek and Farscape hosts. Anyone else see a parallel between Star Trek’s Vash and SG-1’s Vala? I suppose that if people were coming on board, say circa season six or so, then the decline isn’t so obvious. And it might be less of a decline, than a shift in genre from a harder form of SciFi to a fluffier confection. Episode “200” fits the fluffier Stargate perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/19 "2006-08-21T16:30:29Z")
Not a regular Stargate watcher - I like what I’ve seen, but I just don’t have enough affection for it to clear out a spot on my media-junkie schedule. So I’ve seen a few episodes here and there. But a friend of mine is a huge fan of it, and insisted I watch this one. Loved it. Probably missed a lot of the self referential stuff, but the Puppets and Star Trek and Farscape bits were great, as was Teal’c, P.I. What was the movie guy’s cell ringtone? ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376/20 "2006-08-21T16:50:51Z")
[QUOTE=CandidGamera] What was the movie guy’s cell ringtone? [/QUOTE] The themesong to “Wormhole X-Treme!”, the schlocky TV show the movie they were working on was based on. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargate-sg1-200/369376.md?page=2)