# Stargirl Season 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [August 10, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362 "2021-08-10T04:25:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/1 "2021-08-10T04:25:55Z")
The new season premieres Tuesday night, airing right before _Superman & Lois_. I have heard some rumors that they may be some multiversal shenanigans in the coming season, making this show an official part of the Arrowverse. ## S02E01 Summer School: Chapter One [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Pol14FybI1o/maxresdefault.jpg "DC's Stargirl Season 2 "Cast" Featurette (HD) Brec Bassinger Superhero series") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pol14FybI1o) **SCHOOL’S OUT** - With summer break around the corner, Pat suggests the family take a vacation after seeing that Courtney has been spending too much time focused on being Stargirl and not enough time on her schoolwork. Meanwhile, as Beth attempts to reconnect with Chuck, she stumbles upon a major secret her parents have been keeping from her. Elsewhere, Yolanda continues to be haunted by Brainwave’s death, and Rick secretly tracks Solomon Grundy after suspecting he may still be in the area. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/2 "2021-08-11T01:22:22Z")
Stargirl’s back! With a new principal and a new ISA being born (and pretty appalling operational security on the part of Pat). ---
**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/3 "2021-08-11T04:03:46Z")
For such a good opener it was kind of a dud episode. Not a lot happened. Green Lantern’s daughter shows up which is cool. Star Man seems to be back which is cool. A reborn ISA, which is cool. Ok, I guess stuff did happen. At least to set up for future stuff. What’s with the purple crystal though? What is that supposed to be besides 'EVIL"? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/4 "2021-08-11T07:01:34Z")
I think the episode tried to do too much with the loose threads from last season, advancing most things by just a little bit resulting in the impression that almost nothing happened. Better that they concentrated on one plot thread. Since the series is called _Stargirl_, it should have mostly been about Courtney. Reserve the rest of the JSA for future episodes. Things really picked up once Green Lantern’s daughter showed up. Unfortunately that’s when the episode ended. The purple crystal is Eclipso. Cindy Burman picked him up at the end of last season. I’m sure we’ll see what his deal is in the near future. The staff is quite a convincing special effect. A large part of it is because the actress holds a lighted stick on set. The light cast by staff also reflects off Courtney and the rest of the room. Unfortunately, the lantern does no such thing. It glows green but doesn’t actually cast any green light on its surroundings. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/5 "2021-08-11T13:25:18Z")
After some Googling, Dr. Mid-Nite was Charles McNider. McNider was the name on the mailbox in the episode prologue, where the little girl lived. So apparently Eclipso killed Chuck’s daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/6 "2021-08-11T13:40:21Z")
Yeah, I spotted the McNider name, but its unclear at least to me whether it was Chuck’s daughter or sister who was killed. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/7 "2021-08-11T14:02:45Z")
While the JSA was out patrolling at night, they passed by a movie theater advertising “The Adventures of Mark Merlin”. [Mark Merlin was the alter ego of Prince Ra-Man, who often fought Eclipso.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Ra-Man) ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/8 "2021-08-11T15:32:10Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Yeah, I spotted the McNider name, but its unclear at least to me whether it was Chuck’s daughter or sister who was killed. Probably daughter (maybe niece, but daughter makes more sense). The mom & daughter’s clothing was 1960s and Chuck was born in the 19-teens. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/9 "2021-08-11T16:39:22Z")
I enjoyed the episode 🙂 It was nice to not have some world-shattering issues. Failing classes. Parent issues. All very nice and not pouty-pouty boo-boo lip drama. I love how they’re rolling in existing JLA history into the modern version. And I think he’d freak out more if his giant robot was being touched… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/10 "2021-08-11T18:00:48Z")
Makes sense - thanks ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/11 "2021-08-11T18:18:40Z")
Eclypso or Star Sapphire? She used purple a lot. Want to bet the teacher faked to grades to keep Stargirl in town? ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/12 "2021-08-11T19:00:19Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Want to bet the teacher faked to grades to keep Stargirl in town? Possibly, but based on her study habits (non-existent when it comes to the subjects she’s taking in high school) I find it entirely plausible that she failed the classes legitimately. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/13 "2021-08-11T19:25:33Z")
But it seems to fit in neatly with the villain’s plans. If she leaves for two weeks, things will have to wait. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/14 "2021-08-11T22:16:36Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > But it seems to fit in neatly with the villain’s plans. If she leaves for two weeks, things will have to wait. Maybe, but if it’s some sort of scheme, I think that’s just dramatically bad. It’s _much_ more interesting if Courtney is legitimately having difficulty balancing superheroing and teenagering, and the whole first act was largely about that. It was even explicitly called out in the dialogue between her and Pat that she was up until 4 am studying the JSA files, and just waved off preparing for her history exam. > [@amarinth](#): > > Probably daughter (maybe niece, but daughter makes more sense). The mom & daughter’s clothing was 1960s and Chuck was born in the 19-teens. I think likely daughter. The mom said her dad “was on call” - Dr. Mid-Nite was actually a doctor, and not many other professions would be “on-call”. Not to mention, being “on-call” would be a pretty good cover story for super-heroing. > [@Lightnin](#): > > While the JSA was out patrolling at night, they passed by a movie theater advertising “The Adventures of Mark Merlin”. > > [Mark Merlin was the alter ego of Prince Ra-Man, who often fought Eclipso.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Ra-Man) And before that, he was an occult detective, who both debunked fake supernatural occurrences and dealt with genuine supernatural mysteries. And since the movie is _The Adventures of Mark Merlin_, I suspect that’s the phase of his career the movie is about. Yet again, we see that the box office on Earth-2 is dominated by comic book movies, but not super-hero movies. We’ve seen weird war, western, political, and now occult detective movies featured. I’m betting we’re going to see _Young Romance_ at some point. That’s just _got_ to be in the background of a scene with Courtney and Cameron at some point. * * * I agree this episode managed to both seem a bit draggy _and_ overly involved, but they’re setting up the plotlines for the coming season, so I was willing to bear with it. I like that Wildcat II is still dealing with the trauma of killing Brainwave. In most shows, that one be a one-episode sub-plot, at most, and then never mentioned again. Also, Rick Tyler is clearly tracking Solomon Grundy, who’s living in the woods. Did Rick leave the chicken out as a peace offering, or is he setting up a trap? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/15 "2021-08-11T23:03:32Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > Also, Rick Tyler is clearly tracking Solomon Grundy, who’s living in the woods. Did Rick leave the chicken out as a peace offering, or is he setting up a trap? Initially I thought “trap” but Rick’s body language wasn’t particularly hostile, so I’m leaning towards peace at the moment. Interesting to see Rick feel under appreciated by the people he saved. PS. Eclipso responsible for the divorce talk? ---
**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/16 "2021-08-11T23:26:34Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Eclypso or Star Sapphire? She used purple a lot. Eclypso. I followed Lightnin’s link and then clicked on Eclypso’s link from there and it mentions Eclypso is a regular in season 2 of Stargirl. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/17 "2021-08-12T06:35:50Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > While the JSA was out patrolling at night, they passed by a movie theater advertising “The Adventures of Mark Merlin”. > > [Mark Merlin was the alter ego of Prince Ra-Man, who often fought Eclipso.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Ra-Man) Everybody loves Ra-Man. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/18 "2021-08-12T17:02:51Z")
> [@Enjoy\_Slurm](#): > > > [@RealityChuck](#): > > > > Eclypso or Star Sapphire? She used purple a lot. > > Eclypso. I followed Lightnin’s link and then clicked on Eclypso’s link from there and it mentions Eclypso is a regular in season 2 of Stargirl. Eclipso may be a regular, but that doesn’t preclude Star Sapphire being there, too. Star Sapphire has a jewel that gives her her powers and is usually depicted at being purple in its modern incarnations. AFAIK, Eclipso was transformed by anything that resembled an eclipse, and was more Jekyll and Hyde. He had a jewel, but that was black, not purple. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/19 "2021-08-12T18:10:01Z")
Eclipso, in more recent lore, is a disembodied malevolent spirit that is trapped in a dark gem, the Heart of Darkness. He attempts to corrupt anyone who encounters this gem, and possesses host bodies, to further his malevolence. He and his victims are frequently portrayed holding the Heart of Darkness over their eye: [![](https://www.comicmix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Eclipso_Origin.jpg) ](https://www.comicmix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Eclipso_Origin.jpg) Which is what we see Cindy doing. The color of the gem varies from purple to black, depending on the particular artist and colorist. Depicting black objects in a 2D format without making them look like featureless silhouettes is difficult, so dark purple is often used as a stand-in for narratively black objects. On the other hand, we do now have a new Green Lantern, and Star Sapphire was one of his arch-enemies. On the gripping hand, she was an enemy of the modern, GL, Hal Joran, not the JSA original, Alan Scott. I think the gem is very clearly the Heart of Darkness, and Cindy is clearly being influenced by Eclipso, who is either setting her up for outright possession, or is using her to acquire a new vessel (maybe Mike Dugan…). ---
**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362/20 "2021-08-12T18:25:00Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Eclipso may be a regular, but that doesn’t preclude Star Sapphire being there, too. I never said it did. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-2/948362.md?page=2)