# Stargirl Season 3 "Frenemies" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [August 26, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370 "2022-08-26T02:21:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/81 "2022-11-11T01:11:23Z")
I agree about how Icicle came back. His father said that his ancestors “were burned like witches”. Maybe burning has to be the way they’re killed, or Icicle’s parents would have been searching for him, or at least think that he might have survived. I’m still wondering about who set up the cameras. Probably Icicle, since he’s more capable of stealth than a big white gorilla. (Unless Ultra-Humanite has an invisibility machine.) I’m wondering if the school is wondering where the art teacher is. He didn’t call in for a substitute, and principals get very upset when that happens. (Principals don’t want to have to cover a class themselves. I’m a former sub, and I know.) ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/82 "2022-11-11T02:31:48Z")
One thing I forgot to mention about the Crocks being killed: We’re not going to see any more interactions between Barbara and Paula. They were quite small and seemingly irrelevant to the main plot, but they took Barbara out of her comfort zone and therefore quite humorous. ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/83 "2022-11-11T11:11:53Z")
As someone who never read the comics, I have to ask: Is the word “Humanite” supposed to mean something? He’s a super cool-looking, scary monster, but the name … yeesh. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/84 "2022-11-11T12:21:22Z")
It’s supposed to be an evil version of “Super-Man” I’d guess…or it just sounds menacing. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/85 "2022-11-11T12:27:59Z")
According to various wikis, Ultra-Humanite was originally a Superman villain from way, way back in the Golden Age, before even Lex Luthor. I think the name is just one of those goofy Golden Age names. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/86 "2022-11-11T14:11:21Z")
Wonder Woman isn’t much better IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/87 "2022-11-12T20:35:51Z")
IIRC, the Ultra-Humanite was originally a bald scientist, but when Lex Luthor became more prominent, a writer made the character shift bodies. Another thing that occurred to me: when the Mahkents learn Jordan is alive, they’ll be happy–but then furious that he didn’t contact them. He’s apparently been lurking in the sewer/planting cameras instead of reaching out to his family. That made their suffering continue unnecessarily and will be a hard lesson, especially to Lily, about the importance of forgiveness. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/88 "2022-11-17T02:02:15Z")
## S03E11 Frenemies - Chapter Eleven: The Haunting [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/qPclcoiHBPs/maxresdefault.jpg "DC's Stargirl 3x11 Promo "The Haunting" (HD) Final Season") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPclcoiHBPs) **SEEKING FORGIVENESS** - _As Courtney, Sylvester and the JSA plot to take down a major threat, the arrival of someone from their past sends shock waves through the town._ ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/89 "2022-11-17T03:39:29Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Ultra-Humanite was originally a Superman villain from way, way back in the Golden Age, before even Lex Luthor. Yep, 1939 vs 1940. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/90 "2022-11-17T19:32:31Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Cancelled. Fuckin’ hell. Damn, damn, damn. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/91 "2022-11-17T19:41:28Z")
And it looks like it is done, done. They apparently shopped it around and found no takers. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/92 "2022-11-17T20:15:15Z")
So it this where it ends or are there more eps this season? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/93 "2022-11-17T20:21:17Z")
Two more episodes- with a finale that is supposed to close the series (rather than have the original “tease for season 4” ending). ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/94 "2022-11-18T00:00:01Z")
The final episode will indeed be a proper series finale, but apparently Geoff Johns also wrote a version that would have set up the next season if the show had been renewed. So was anyone surprised that Ultra-Humanite and the reconstituted Icicle were in fact working together? I strongly suspect that it was the gorilla that gathered all of the little Icicle droplets from the sewer to resurrect Jordan, All of Jordan’s protestations about having reformed as a consequence of his death really didn’t fool anyone, except maybe his immediate family. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/95 "2022-11-18T00:07:44Z")
If we hadn’t seen the scene in which he killed the Crocks, the audience might have bought his story, but we knew that his story was false. All props for a villain who plays it smart, though. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/96 "2022-11-19T00:55:11Z")
Well, it probably won’t matter now that it’s getting cancelled… But isn’t Mr. Icee-Pop coming back enough of a plot? Do we need a white gorilla? And, yes, I know the backstory of the Ultra-Humanite, but damn, that name does NOT roll off the tongue. As soon a s Courtney hears of him, she says "Okay, there’s our next big threat, and a reason to all band together. To stop the [I can’t believe I’m saying this name] _Ultra-Humanite!"_ ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/97 "2022-11-20T00:22:23Z")
When Jordan tells Barbara that everyone already accepts that he’s alive and won’t be suspicious about his previous disappearance, I thought, “What a shame this didn’t happen in Smallville, because Lois would be all over this story.” (Superman and Lois isn’t in this universe, but still.) I’m guessing Artemis is going to go after Jordan and then, well, not forgive him, but not kill him. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/98 "2022-11-20T01:21:50Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > When Jordan tells Barbara that everyone already accepts that he’s alive and won’t be suspicious about his previous disappearance, I thought, “What a shame this didn’t happen in Smallville, because Lois would be all over this story.” (Superman and Lois isn’t in this universe, but still.) Or Lana. Definitely Wall of Weird material. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/99 "2022-11-20T01:34:11Z")
I take it Chloe is right out. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370/100 "2022-11-20T01:36:51Z")
No,. Chloe is who I meant. Actress not available, though… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stargirl-season-3-frenemies/970370.md?page=6)