# Stark Expo Presents: The "Iron Man 2" Trailer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 17, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583 "2009-12-17T02:30:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/21 "2009-12-17T21:45:37Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > If we go by recent trends of comic book movies, if the first one was good, the second one will be even better, and then the third one is going to blow (e.g. X-Men, Spiderman, etc). The obvious solution is to make Iron Man 1 & 2, then Avengers 1 & 2. Or they could just send me a copy of the script for Iron Man 3, so I can point out anything blatantly stupid. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/22 "2009-12-17T21:46:06Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Ok so…uh…Who’s the bad guy? (Character…not Mickey) Who cares? He’s got Maguffin-driven power whips! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/23 "2009-12-17T22:05:40Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Umm, I don’t think so. > > [Omega Red - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_Red) And yet on the [IMDb page for Iron Man 2](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1228705/), and on the [Wikipedia page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_2#Cast), Mickey Rourke’s character name is listed as Ivan Vanko/Whiplash, not Omega Red. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/24 "2009-12-17T22:06:51Z")
Mmm, double my redhead fun. Looks like Terence Howard got shafted. Aaah well, I like Cheadle better anyway. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/25 "2009-12-17T22:13:24Z")
Mickey Rourke with a dye job and a heart problem? Didn’t I see this movie already? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/26 "2009-12-17T22:24:41Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Looks like Terence Howard got shafted. Aaah well, I like Cheadle better anyway. Me, too. They should have cast him in the first one! Black Widow _looks_ amazing, but I’m going to reserve judgment 'til we hear her speak. Wish the trailer had featured more than a blip of Sam Rockwell (Justin Hammer). Amazing cast. My only fear is that it looks a tad campy. Not that I hate camp, especially in superhero comic adaptations, and I’m sure some of it is just Tony Stark being Tony Stark, but too many zingers can ruin a flick. And Rourke looks a bit Battlefield Earth-ish. Oh hell it’s going to kick so much ass. Can’t wait. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/27 "2009-12-17T23:39:49Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > My only fear is that it looks a tad campy. This. Minus a story (assuming that it continues the tradition of the first movie) and adding camp, I sense a stinker. You can have humor if you also have some characterization and story. Then it’s okay. But, without…you’ve got a problem. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/28 "2009-12-17T23:42:06Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > And yet on the [IMDb page for Iron Man 2](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1228705/), and on the [Wikipedia page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_2#Cast), Mickey Rourke’s character name is listed as Ivan Vanko/Whiplash, not Omega Red. Fair enough. Both Russian both use cybernetic tentacles 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/29 "2009-12-18T00:37:28Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > My only fear is that it looks a tad campy. Not that I hate camp, especially in superhero comic adaptations, and I’m sure some of it is just Tony Stark being Tony Stark, but too many zingers can ruin a flick. In my experience, it’s not about the number of zingers, but their quality and the strength of the actor delivering them. RDJ’s got the latter covered, no question, and the trailer gives me great hope that the dialogue will be witty/hilarious rather than campy. “You complete me!” ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/30 "2009-12-18T01:04:49Z")
> [@Tanbarkie](#): > > In my experience, it’s not about the number of zingers, but their quality and the strength of the actor delivering them. RDJ’s got the latter covered, no question, and the trailer gives me great hope that the dialogue will be witty/hilarious rather than campy. > > “You complete me!” Wait wait, let me get this straight. **Cat Fight** is afraid it will be a tad campy? Darling, it’s an Iron Man movie it won’t be a _TAD_ campy. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/31 "2009-12-18T03:26:17Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > It looks like it will be better than the first movie, thank Og. Great cast, too. The first one was pure distilled awesomeness, and if the second one is _better_… (Note: I do not read Iron Man comics, so I was judging it entirely on it as a movie. And Iron Man was a great movie.) ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/32 "2009-12-18T03:36:39Z")
I loved the first one. The second looks sweet, if filled with an awful lot of T&A. I don’t object, exactly, but it seems over the top. ETA: Between this and the upcoming SHerlock Holmes movie with Law and Downey I may just die of bliss. ---
**Author:** ![Thalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@Thalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thalion)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/33 "2009-12-18T04:24:16Z")
For those who couldn’t get to the trailer on Apple or YouTube, here it is at [Trailer Addict](http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/iron-man-2/trailer). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/34 "2009-12-18T04:35:30Z")
The first one is a Good Action Movie. I know this because I watched it on a tiny screen on the back of the airplane seat in front of me and still enjoyed it terribly. Robert Downey Jr. always delivers. Sometimes he delivers drugs, okay, but he always delivers. I’m all for seeing the second one all proper. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/35 "2009-12-18T10:41:09Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > The second looks sweet, if filled with an awful lot of T&A. I don’t object, exactly, but it seems over the top. I think this is just to emphasise that Tony Stark (or, at any rate, his public persona) is a Douchebag, in ways that the typical orange-tanned, spikey-haired, collar-popping, 'roid-chomping denizens of [HotChicksWithDouchebags.com](http://HotChicksWithDouchebags.com) could only aspire to. Surprisingly, given his in-you-face rich-asshole act, Downey’s Stark is still likeable, even loveable, which is more than can be said for the usual comic version. Man, I hate comic-Tony-Stark so much. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/36 "2009-12-18T15:29:57Z")
The one thing the trailer is missing is a Crowning Moment of Awesome. The trailer for **Iron Man** , you remember, ended with the duel with the tank: Tank fires Iron Man dodges shell Returns fire with a dinky little rocket Turns away as tank explodes Cue Black Sabbath Theater erupts with cheers ---
**Author:** ![Elysium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@Elysium](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elysium)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/37 "2009-12-18T15:57:34Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Mmm, double my redhead fun. > > Looks like Terence Howard got shafted. Aaah well, I like Cheadle better anyway. Well rumor has it Howard [shafted](http://io9.com/5073602/was-howard-replaced-on-iron-man-2-for-more-than-just-money) _himself_ on this one by being a diva. Cheadle is much more awesome, I agree. Scarlett is looking great, I’m hoping for more Scarlett and less Gweneth in this one. She annoys me so bad. I hope RDJ did ad-lib some lines like in the last one. His spontaneous humor kills me. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/38 "2009-12-18T16:10:38Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The one thing the trailer is missing is a Crowning Moment of Awesome. The trailer for **Iron Man** , you remember, ended with the duel with the tank: > > Tank fires > Iron Man dodges shell > Returns fire with a dinky little rocket > Turns away as tank explodes > Cue Black Sabbath > Theater erupts with cheers I think the end of the trailer with War Machine and Iron Man together fighting some other suited up things kind of fills the CMA quota. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/39 "2009-12-18T17:42:31Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The one thing the trailer is missing is a Crowning Moment of Awesome. The trailer for **Iron Man** , you remember, ended with the duel with the tank: > > Tank fires > Iron Man dodges shell > Returns fire with a dinky little rocket > Turns away as tank explodes > Cue Black Sabbath > Theater erupts with cheers This trailer has at least three: 1. “I have successfully privatized world peace.” 2. Iron Man’s pyrotechnics-powered arrival at Stark Expo 3. Iron Man + War Machine Battle the Giant Robots ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/40 "2009-12-18T17:46:25Z")
Nah. Those are _good_ bits, but they just don’t peg my “Awesome” meter. Hopefully the movie will. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583.md?page=3)