# Stark Expo Presents: The "Iron Man 2" Trailer

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 17, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583 "2009-12-17T02:30:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/41 "2009-12-18T18:06:36Z")

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> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> Mickey Rourke with a dye job and a heart problem?
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> Didn’t I see this movie already?

The fights should be amazing. I don’t think Tony Stark has a staple gun in his arsenal.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/42 "2009-12-18T18:35:31Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> This trailer has at least three:
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> 1. “I have successfully privatized world peace.”
> 2. Iron Man’s pyrotechnics-powered arrival at Stark Expo
> 3. Iron Man + War Machine Battle the Giant Robots

1. Iron Man flying through what I assume is an overpass, dodging bullets and having cars blow the hell up.  
I’m happy a lot of the suit seems to be featured. The first one didn’t have enough full suit Iron Man for my tastes…this one does.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/43 "2009-12-18T18:37:27Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> ETA: Between this and the upcoming SHerlock Holmes movie with Law and Downey I may just die of bliss.

Law and Downey? Is that Dick Wolf’s new police procedural?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/44 "2009-12-18T18:54:11Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Law and Downey? Is that Dick Wolf’s new police procedural?

You’re a very bad person. I just spent a minute visualizing a Law and Order spin-off with the team composed of people with Down Syndrome.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/45 "2009-12-18T18:59:27Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> You’re a very bad person. I just spent a minute visualizing a Law and Order spin-off with the team composed of people with Down Syndrome.

"Hello! I’m Detective Petey and this is Detective Karen … "

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/46 "2009-12-18T21:56:52Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Wait wait, let me get this straight. **Cat Fight** is afraid it will be a tad campy?
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> Darling, it’s an Iron Man movie it won’t be a _TAD_ campy.

But there’s campy, say, _X-Men Origins: Wolverine_ (beefcake shots, silly lines) and then there’s campy _Fantastic Four_ (horrible acting, plotholes). I’m hoping it’s not the latter. Except I hope Tony has to do a lot of half-naked welding.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/47 "2009-12-18T22:44:18Z")

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> [@Elysium](#):
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> Scarlett is looking great, I’m hoping for more Scarlett and less Gweneth in this one. She annoys me so bad.

It’s funny, b/c Gwyneth usually affects me like my cats when my wife applies nail polish, but in the first movie I was shocked at her hotness.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/48 "2009-12-18T22:49:46Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I think this is just to emphasise that Tony Stark (or, at any rate, his public persona) is a Douchebag, in ways that the typical orange-tanned, spikey-haired, collar-popping, 'roid-chomping denizens of [HotChicksWithDouchebags.com](http://HotChicksWithDouchebags.com) could only aspire to.
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> Surprisingly, given his in-you-face rich-asshole act, Downey’s Stark is still likeable, even loveable, which is more than can be said for the usual comic version. Man, I hate comic-Tony-Stark so much.

This is where Downey really makes the movie (at least the first one). Tony Stark as a character is not likable. He’s a flawed dick. But its hard to pull off a movie with a hero who isn’t the least bit likeable.

Downey somehow manages to keep the douchebag, but make him a charming, likeable douchebag.

He makes a better Tony Stark than the writers at Marvel ever pulled off.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/49 "2009-12-18T23:05:58Z")

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> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> This is where Downey really makes the movie (at least the first one). Tony Stark as a character is not likable. He’s a flawed dick. But its hard to pull off a movie with a hero who isn’t the least bit likeable.
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> Downey somehow manages to keep the douchebag, but make him a charming, likeable douchebag.
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> He makes a better Tony Stark than the writers at Marvel ever pulled off.

During that movie was the first time in my life that I said, “I wish I were him.”

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/50 "2009-12-19T05:36:48Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> During that movie was the first time in my life that I said, “I wish I were him.”

Exactly. He manages to make being a douchebag _forgivable_, as in “You know, if I had buckets of money, power, fame, brilliance and legions of hot women falling all over me, I’d be a douche too. I’ll give him a pass.”

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/51 "2009-12-19T17:09:19Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> During that movie was the first time in my life that I said, “I wish I were him.”

Was it when the dancing pole came out on the plane? 😉

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/52 "2009-12-19T17:36:52Z")

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I have only one thing to say about this trailer:

MOTHERFRAKKIN WAR MACHINE! HELLS TO THE YEAHS!

He’s been my favorite Iron Man character since the cartoon. Never read the comics, but the cartoon was awesome. As is Gweneth Paltrow’s attractiveness.

Been a fan of hers since I saw Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.😃

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/53 "2009-12-19T18:01:42Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> But there’s campy, say, _X-Men Origins: Wolverine_ (beefcake shots, silly lines) and then there’s campy _Fantastic Four_ (horrible acting, plotholes). I’m hoping it’s not the latter. Except I hope Tony has to do a lot of half-naked welding.

Ha, I thought both Wolverine and Fantastic Four were horrible movies. Really the quality difference is infinitesimal. I hope Iron Man 2 will be better than either of those. I wouldn’t go so far as to say that Iron Man 1 was a GOOD movie, it wasn’t, in fact its plot was passable at best, but it was fun nonetheless. I would watch it again, whereas I doubt I’ll watch Wolverine of FF again. Very few comic book movies do what The Dark Night or X-Men 1 and 2 did.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/54 "2009-12-19T18:02:45Z")

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> [@Raguleader](#):
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> I have only one thing to say about this trailer:
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> MOTHERFRAKKIN WAR MACHINE! HELLS TO THE YEAHS!
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> He’s been my favorite Iron Man character since the cartoon. Never read the comics, but the cartoon was awesome. As is Gweneth Paltrow’s attractiveness.
> 
> Been a fan of hers since I saw Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.😃

I never liked Gwyneth Paltrow until Iron Man, but indeed she’s hot in Iron Man.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/55 "2009-12-19T18:27:19Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I never liked Gwyneth Paltrow until Iron Man, but indeed she’s hot in Iron Man.

And in _Sky Captain_.

The problem, and I’ve said this before, is that she keeps getting cast in roles that require a much more spirited performance than she seems willing to give. That’s a great scene in the trailer, when Tony asks for a kiss and she plants one on the helmet. I don’t know the character from the comics, but it just seems like his assistant should be someone who can survive all of his crap and can give it back to him in spades. The role in _Sky Captain_ was the same way, it should be cocky, but Paltrow never rose above pensive. Maybe this time will be different, but she could have sold that kiss better.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/56 "2009-12-19T18:29:55Z")

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Except she is supposed to be staid and reserved, which is part of why Tony likes her. She’s basically Moneypenny.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/57 "2009-12-19T18:52:32Z")

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It would be ironic if she finally grew a spine for a role that wasn’t supposed to have one.

Also ironic is that her mom used to be great in those spirited, confident kinds of roles.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/58 "2009-12-19T20:57:26Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> The one thing the trailer is missing is a Crowning Moment of Awesome. The trailer for **Iron Man** , you remember, ended with the duel with the tank:
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> Tank fires  
> Iron Man dodges shell  
> Returns fire with a dinky little rocket  
> Turns away as tank explodes  
> Cue Black Sabbath  
> Theater erupts with cheers

Agreed. The Iron Man trailer was like pure distilled awesome with a dash of super badass for good measure.

The Iron Man 2 trailer is good and the movie looks great, but it was not pure distilled awesome.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/59 "2009-12-19T20:58:27Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> It would be ironic if she finally grew a spine for a role that wasn’t supposed to have one.
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> Also ironic is that her mom used to be great in those spirited, confident kinds of roles.

I think you are mistaking being spunky and sarcastic with having a spine. I think this role is one of her strongest characters. She’s much better in staid roles IMO.

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stark-expo-presents-the-iron-man-2-trailer/521583/60 "2009-12-19T23:59:52Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Holy Crap that looks awesome.

Like the guy from Belfast said when I watched the first one, “Fockin’ class!”

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