# Starship Geek Heaven. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 13, 2004, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-geek-heaven/259648 "2004-08-13T03:10:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-geek-heaven/259648/1 "2004-08-13T03:10:10Z")
I couldn’t figure out if this had been posted before, searches turned up nothing, so… [Jeff Russell’s STARSHIP DIMENSIONS](http://www.merzo.net/index.html) Wow. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-geek-heaven/259648/2 "2004-08-13T04:58:58Z")
That site fucking sucks. The Death Star II was approximately 900 kilometers in diameter, not 160. And the _Executor_ was 17.6 kilometers long, not 12.8. Goddamn. Doesn’t anybody do research anymore? ---
**Author:** ![ElectricZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58f4c7/32.png) [@ElectricZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElectricZ)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-geek-heaven/259648/3 "2004-08-13T05:34:13Z")
> [@SPOOFE](#): > > That site fucking sucks. The Death Star II was approximately 900 kilometers in diameter, not 160. And the _Executor_ was 17.6 kilometers long, not 12.8. > > Goddamn. Doesn’t anybody do research anymore? This guy did – check out the cites for his measurements (which are conveniently located right next to his measurements.) The figures he used apparently came from some early written materials that he considers “official.” The link he provides goes to a site where they try to figure out the size from observations in the movie and come up with your 900km size but it’s all still just guesswork. I’m gonna have to counter your “fucking sucks” rating with an “it rocks.” The guy put a lot of work into it, made it look good, made it functional, backed up his figures with cites, threw in some cool real-world figures and landmarks for scale, and managed to slip in some really funny, subtle humor into the mix. (Check out the bugs from Starship Troopers… One of these things is not like the others!) This site brought a smile to my inner geek. Thanks to the OP for posting it, and the creator for putting it together! EZ ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-geek-heaven/259648/4 "2004-08-13T05:52:02Z")
> [@ElectricZ](#): > > (Check out the bugs from Starship Troopers… One of these things is not like the others!) I noticed that one, too. That made me laugh. And the Real Ships and Buildings on the -2X page. Looking at the front page I’m trying to identify everything, but coming up very short. I’ve spotted, so far, 2 Zentraedi ships, 2 Imperial Star Destroyers, a Klingon Bird of Prey, a Romulan Warbird, Deep Space 9, the Enterprise D, an Earth battleship from B5, that giant spacewormwhalething that tried to eat the Enterprise in TOS, and a Shadow ship. Anybody able to do better? ---
**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-geek-heaven/259648/5 "2004-08-13T06:20:02Z")
> [@SPOOFE](#): > > That site fucking sucks. The Death Star II was approximately 900 kilometers in diameter, not 160. And the _Executor_ was 17.6 kilometers long, not 12.8. > > Goddamn. Doesn’t anybody do research anymore? From the site’s FAQ: > [@](#): > > 3.) According to my 'official guide’, starship “XXXXX” should be a this size. Why is yours different? > > Many of you have pointed out inconsistencies in the sizes of some ships with respect to ‘official sources’. In all instances I have tried to present the ships in what I believe (or know) was the intended size of the original artist or director. This may or may not be in line with the information in some of the published official material available. Case in point: the Death Stars and Super Star Destroyer from the Star Wars series. I have received many emails referring to the Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels’ dimensions. While this is an excellent reference source, in these two instances I feel that the stated scales are erroneous based on research done by Dr. Curtis Saxton and several interviews with the original creators that I have had the chance to read (looking for those sources too!). One example: Refer to page 44 of the Best of the Lucas Films Archives: “The Imperial Star Destroyer Executor, the flagship of Darth Vader, was conceived as eleven times the size of the original Star Destroyer of Star Wars.” That would make it 11 times 1.6km, or 17.6km. The author of the site has obviously done quite a bit of research, and for those ships whose sizes are in dispute, he acknowleges the dispute, and provides links to the evidence he used and/or the alternate explanations. This seems to me to be quite a fair way to present the information. ---
**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-geek-heaven/259648/6 "2004-08-13T12:50:00Z")
Wow. I always thought the SDF-1 would be bigger than that. Cool site, though. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-geek-heaven/259648/7 "2004-08-13T13:12:14Z")
The coolest part is how you can move everything around to sit them next to each other. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2004, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-geek-heaven/259648/8 "2004-08-13T20:25:33Z")
Sheesh, a guy can’t be a nerd without counter-nerds coming up to get 'im. I was kiddin’, guys, a geek like me naturally gravitates towards sites like that. Sorry for the confusion. Nerds. 😃