# Starship Troopers 3

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 8, 2008, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436 "2008-04-08T10:45:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/21 "2008-04-08T15:18:02Z")

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[QUOTE=alphaboi867]  
And the third will do just fine as long as Casper van Dien spends most of it naked.  
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I’d pay to see that (assuming he hasn’t gone to seed in the last ten years).

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/22 "2008-04-08T15:22:27Z")

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[QUOTE=LurkMeister]  
I had seen some of the TV series that someone had taped at a convention, so at least some of them must have aired. I have the entire series in my Netflix queue, and if they’re as good as I remember I might look into buying the DVDs.  
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I have the boxed set. The series is OK, but tends to be repetitive. Definitely not to be viewed in a marathon.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/23 "2008-04-08T17:48:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Who\_me?]  
I still refuse to admit there was a Starship Troopers 1.  
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I’m not surprised I wasn’t the first to state this. I loved the book, and refuse to believe the rumor that there was a movie made.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/24 "2008-04-08T19:51:55Z")

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There are reasons people here are not talking about how good or bad the first movie was.  
I think it’s simplest to say that it was the director’s vision, the director is a very good director, and he made the movie he wanted to make.

Which had little to do with the book he made it from.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/25 "2008-04-08T20:05:42Z")

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[QUOTE=detop]  
I have the boxed set. The series is OK, but tends to be repetitive. Definitely not to be viewed in a marathon.  
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Maybe I should spread them out in my queue, then. Since I selected them all at the same time (after checking to see their proper order) they’re in a straight run at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/26 "2008-04-08T23:08:55Z")

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[QUOTE=detop]  
The series is OK, but tends to be repetitive.  
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“Is this the episode where they land on a planet and shoot lots of bugs? Cool!”

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/27 "2008-04-08T23:11:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Pushkin]  
I was hoping the new satellite anime channel in the UK would show some odd stuff like that. But then inevitably, they showed popular stuff like Cowboy Bebop, so I doubt I’ll get to see it any time soon.  
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All that feckin channel seems to show in Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell. :mad:

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/28 "2008-04-08T23:43:32Z")

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(1) was a total hack job of Heilein’s novel. Director Paul Verhoven totally distorted the story. That said, those giant bugs that farted rockets were cool!  
And, csapr van Dien didn’t have any talent-but I guess that didn’t matter!  
I might watch ST III-if it makes it to dollar night!

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/29 "2008-04-08T23:48:13Z")

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Starship Troopers 1 was horrible. It’s funny that Casper van Dien is considered a name.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/30 "2008-04-09T00:05:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
“Is this the episode where they land on a planet and shoot lots of bugs? Cool!”  
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That’s about it 😃

And to those who complain about ST I (which I consider a perversion of Heinlein’s vision, but an OK action movie), I ask, would you have preferred if the (same) movie had been called “Robert Heinlein’s Starship Troopers” ?

for me, if called that, I would have personnally hunted down Verhoeven and fed him to one of his CGI bug

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/31 "2008-04-09T01:02:04Z")

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Where the _bleep_ is the powered armor?

I’ll watch it, if just to have bitching material.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/32 "2008-04-09T01:14:22Z")

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[QUOTE=detop]  
I ask, would you have preferred if the (same) movie had been called “Robert Heinlein’s Starship Troopers” ?

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You realize, that **that** eventually **will** happen.

… and that such a remake will likely honor the tradition that calling the movie “[Book Author’s Name]'s [Title]” is absolutely no guarantee that it’ll be faithful.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/33 "2008-04-09T02:15:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Pushkin]  
It was scheduled to be on one of the UK cable channels a while back, but when I switched on, there was just a badly acted, poorly directed blur.  
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That was it. ☹😛

I have some mild fond memories of the 1st, esp the “fake” commercials, but the 2nd is 99.99% bad, except you can make jokes about “brain suckers”, which give them that .01%.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/34 "2008-04-09T02:17:14Z")

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[QUOTE=AtomicDog]  
Where the _bleep_ is the powered armor?

I’ll watch it, if just to have bitching material.  
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They tried that, apparently and it came off as “robots vs bugs” :eek: so they dropped it. ☹

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/35 "2008-04-09T02:31:35Z")

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I guess they never saw _Roughnecks_, then. The troopers had powersuits and they didn’t look like robots.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/36 "2008-04-09T04:50:34Z")

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[QUOTE=AtomicDog]  
I guess they never saw _Roughnecks_, then. The troopers had powersuits and they didn’t look like robots.  
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That \*would \*be a good SF trick as Roughnecks came out 2-3 years _after_ Starship Troopers.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/37 "2008-04-09T12:48:28Z")

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]  
They tried that, apparently and it came off as “robots vs bugs” :eek: so they dropped it. ☹  
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I think the fact that they didn’t see potential in robots vs. bugs goes to show you just how incompetent the filmmakers were.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/38 "2008-04-10T01:58:37Z")

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I have a few questions:

1. is this his real name? Sounds improbable to me-imagine (sane) parents naing a boy “casper”!!
2. has he starred in anything since ST!?
3. does he have any talent (aside from his sixpack abdominals)?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/39 "2008-04-10T02:31:06Z")

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[QUOTE=ralph124c]  
I have a few questions:

1. is this his real name? Sounds improbable to me-imagine (sane) parents naing a boy “casper”!!
2. has he starred in anything since ST!?
3. does he have any talent (aside from his sixpack abdominals)?  
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1. Yes it’s a real name. It has been a real name for centuries. It’s a (Dutch?) variant of Caspar/Gaspar, as in one of the Magi. According to his bios there are at least seven and maybe as many as 11 generations of "Casper"s in his family tree (a military family with distinguished "Casper"s for at least the two generations before him), counting his own son.
2. [IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000680/) Bio page. He’s primarily a TV actor and sure doesn’t look unemployed.
3. You got me there, dude. But considering how many regularly-employed actresses seem to have, as Joe Bob would put it, only two very large talents, I’m not begrudging CVD a career based on hardbodied good looks

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starship-troopers-3/444436/40 "2008-04-10T02:35:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Darth Sensitive]

The first movie was cheesy, and the second had some pretty gratuitous nudity.  
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The nudity in the first one _wasn’t_ gratuitous?

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