# START, get a LiveJournal. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2005, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972 "2005-06-27T00:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/1 "2005-06-27T00:49:58Z")
I don’t know if your [latest story](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=322890) is true or not. All I know is, I’m sick of hearing this crap. You’re either an idiot with no impulse control who doesn’t learn from his mistakes, or we are all being played. Either way, get a LiveJournal and shut the fuck up on the boards. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/2 "2005-06-27T01:00:18Z")
Chalk one up for “we’re all being played.” ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/3 "2005-06-27T01:01:14Z")
Your point is well made, but I hope he waits just a little longer. I am waiting breathlessly to find out if she wears pajama pants to school. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/4 "2005-06-27T01:12:40Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Your point is well made, but I hope he waits just a little longer. I am waiting breathlessly to find out if she wears pajama pants to school. Heh, only an old schooler could get that joke! Thanks for the best chuckle I’ve had all day! I also agree with the “we’re being played” sentiment. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/5 "2005-06-27T01:15:43Z")
> [@Uvula Donor](#): > > Chalk one up for “we’re all being played.” I dunno; it could be either one. Put it this way: I don’t think **dare\_devil007** is lying when she posts about her drama-queen friends. And START seems to have the same pattern as **dare\_devil** ’s friends of making high drama out of simple non-crises, and being unable to see that he’s in a hole and therefore ceasing to dig. So there **are** people like that, and all this **could** be true. What I’m getting at is, if it **is** true, he’s got a lot of growing up to do, and he shouldn’t be doing it on other posters’ time. Or it could be a work. Either way, he’s a total putz. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/6 "2005-06-27T01:16:49Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Your point is well made, but I hope he waits just a little longer. I am waiting breathlessly to find out if she wears pajama pants to school. You really couldn’t wait a dozen minutes more so I could be the first to make this comment? Actually, I intended to state that unfortunately, if his stories aren’t true, they’re not on par with the pajama pants story… However, they’re still much more believable… ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/7 "2005-06-27T01:18:59Z")
The big difference that I see is that **dare\_devil007** ’s posts don’t follow a formulaic pattern like **START** ’s. His practically follow a template. ---
**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/8 "2005-06-27T01:27:30Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > Your point is well made, but I hope he waits just a little longer. I am waiting breathlessly to find out if she wears pajama pants to school. See through white ones without panties? Every day to class? With little hairs hanging down the back of her neck? Dear Og, the fire of a thousand white-hot suns cannot get that crap out of my brain. It hurtsss the preciousss. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/9 "2005-06-27T01:30:20Z")
> [@Uvula Donor](#): > > Chalk one up for “we’re all being played.” Another one. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/10 "2005-06-27T01:37:15Z")
> [@Uvula Donor](#): > > The big difference that I see is that **dare\_devil007** ’s posts don’t follow a formulaic pattern like **START** ’s. His practically follow a template. I think **Rilchiam** was drawing a comparison more with **dare\_devil007\_**'s _friends_ – not with **dare\_devil** herself (who comes across in her posts as much more mature than the friends she is writing about)… ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/11 "2005-06-27T01:42:34Z")
> [@SHAKES](#): > > Heh, only an old schooler could get that joke! Thanks for the best chuckle I’ve had all day! > > I also agree with the “we’re being played” sentiment. You wanna let me in on the joke? Is this an American thing? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/12 "2005-06-27T01:49:38Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > I think **Rilchiam** was drawing a comparison more with **dare\_devil007\_**'s _friends_ – not with **dare\_devil** herself (who comes across in her posts as much more mature than the friends she is writing about)… Yes, that is what I meant. **dare\_devil** ’s posts are proof that there’s no shortage of teenagers who don’t think before they act or speak, and do so jerkishly or idiotically. The difference is, **d\_d** is not the one **doing** all these things; she’s just witnessing them, and she comes on the boards to let off steam about it. Whereas START’s credibility has become stretched pretty thin with this endlessly repeating pattern. And this current post breaks down twice. First when he gets into a shouting match in the parking lot with a guy, then ends up “sitting with him in his Mom’s car”. Riiiiight. Second is when he says that after Laura was all traumatized from getting water dumped on her, they “walked and got to know each other even more”. His ignoring her at the party where he knew people didn’t like her fits the pattern of stupidity that he’s already established. But her wanting to make out with him afterwards just sounds like bad creative writing done in study hall twenty minutes before it’s due. “How do I wrap this up? Well, I’ll just skip to the part where we START kissing, and leave a wink at the end, so people know there’ll be another chapter.” So some of the behavior he described is credible. But not all of it, and not in the chronology that he describes it, and not as often as posts about it. And he’s been told, repeatedly, “You shouldn’t do that to people,” and he goes away for a week or so, then comes back to say, “I was a putz again, let me tell you about it.” He might not be making everything up. He could be embellishing stuff, like there really is a Laura, but there wasn’t any party. And he could just be getting off on the attention. **I\_D\_B\_B** , anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/13 "2005-06-27T01:52:40Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > You wanna let me in on the joke? Is this an American thing? [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=111990) and [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=116085). ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/14 "2005-06-27T01:52:59Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > I dunno; it could be either one. Put it this way: I don’t think **dare\_devil007** is lying when she posts about her drama-queen friends. And START seems to have the same pattern as **dare\_devil** ’s friends of making high drama out of simple non-crises, and being unable to see that he’s in a hole and therefore ceasing to dig. > > So there **are** people like that, and all this **could** be true. What I’m getting at is, if it **is** true, he’s got a lot of growing up to do, and he shouldn’t be doing it on other posters’ time. Or it could be a work. Either way, he’s a total putz. **START** isn’t _in_ a hole, he _is_ the hole, and has a donkey for company. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/15 "2005-06-27T01:53:33Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > You wanna let me in on the joke? Is this an American thing? No, it’s a reference to a long-ago poster (banned, I’m sure Lo these many moons) who wrote a long post (possibly several, the memory is foggy) about his adventures with Pajama Pants Girl (you might find the old threads by searching that.) Well, long story short, the whole saga was an elaborate fiction and well-meaning posters felt quite had. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/16 "2005-06-27T01:55:15Z")
No, he wasn’t banned. And he never admitted that the story was fiction. He merely slunk away after people deconstructed it. Anyway, I posted the links if anyone wants to check them out. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/17 "2005-06-27T01:56:07Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > You wanna let me in on the joke? Is this an American thing? There was a poster called [Skewbald](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?userid=19833) quite some time ago who posted these long mawkish screeds about a highschool crush that he supposedly had. At first, it seemed ok and everyone was eating them up but as time went on more and more folks started to have their bullshit detector go off. I think that the original may have been lost in the Winter of Lost Content, but [here is an example that I found.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=111990) Also, it would seem that I am an Old Schooler now :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/18 "2005-06-27T02:03:13Z")
I can’t believe that no one has mentioned [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=111990). ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/19 "2005-06-27T02:05:35Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Yes, that is what I meant. **dare\_devil** ’s posts are proof that there’s no shortage of teenagers who don’t think before they act or speak, and do so jerkishly or idiotically. The difference is, **d\_d** is not the one **doing** all these things; she’s just witnessing them, and she comes on the boards to let off steam about it. OK, sorry, I misunderstood - because I agree with you 100% about **dare\_devil**. (My daughter is **dare\_devil** ’s age, and in my experience, **d\_d** ’s posts ring true.) **START** ’s posts, however, don’t. And they haven’t for a long time. Actually, his posts nearly always prove to be pretty devisive - some Dopers call bullshit on him while others help fend off the “attacks” and throw an arm around his shoulder to offer sincere advice; not only that, but **START** ’s OPs seem deliberately written to elicit exactly that type of response. Maybe I’m full of shit, or maybe I’m reading more into them than what’s actually there. Maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/20 "2005-06-27T02:05:44Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > I can’t believe that no one has mentioned [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=111990). Lucky #13, mine, and clairobscur’s all did… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972.md?page=2)