# START, get a LiveJournal. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2005, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972 "2005-06-27T00:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Pythian\_Habenero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a6a055/32.png) [@Pythian\_Habenero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pythian_Habenero)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/161 "2005-06-29T22:19:04Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > The first meaning of “obtain” is get, receive, acquire. It also has the secondary meaning of [to be established, accepted, or customary](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=obtain), and a third meaning of to be valid, applicable, or true. > > By the way, you _are_ planning to stick around, aren’t you? Thanks! I didn’t know that. Cool. It’s always nice to learn something new about my language. And… well… I’d kind of like to, but for the reasons I outlined earlier I’m not sure it’d be the best of ideas. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/162 "2005-06-29T23:13:18Z")
> [@Diane](#): > > So why in thee Keeerist do people feel the need to come into the Pit, where they know that people get toasted, and spout their feel good happy crappy why-can’t-we-all-get-along bullshit? I also wonder why people are lobbing accusations of bullying at me. As I’ve said before, I am not picking on START; I am stating that his posts rub me and others the wrong way. That is not bullying; it’s what people do in the Pit. **And** , I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that what he describes in many of his OPs **is** bullying. If he’s brave enough to harrass people IRL, he should be brave enough to withstand a Pitting. ---
**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/163 "2005-06-30T00:32:07Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > **And** , I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that what he describes in many of his OPs **is** bullying. If he’s brave enough to harrass people IRL, he should be brave enough to withstand a Pitting. That is an excellent point.You can’t be a bully online or IRL without it eventually catching up to you. Apparently, the catching up has STARTed for someone… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/164 "2005-07-07T21:46:21Z")
> [@auntie em](#): > > Um . . . am I the only person who’s noticed that **START** , who–ahem–started all of this, seems to have taken all of his toys and gone home? Seems he’s returned as a sock–and gotten himself and his sock banned. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/165 "2005-07-08T01:26:15Z")
Just to emphasize, he left, got a sock, and did the same exact thing: writing a post about doing bad shit and then asking “Was the shit I did really bad? Would you all fight over it please?” ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/166 "2005-07-08T01:36:58Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Just to emphasize, he left, got a sock, and did the same exact thing: writing a post about doing bad shit and then asking “Was the shit I did really bad? Would you all fight over it please?” Gotta admit, the little shit’s consistent. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/167 "2005-07-08T03:22:56Z")
Ah, well-sock or not, I wish him well. I just don’t see why he bugged so many folks here–he is a teenage boy (if he is a teen age boy). Not saying that you shouldn’t be bugged–just don’t share it. There are plenty of other posters that bug me, so to each his own. Now we can look forward to some other sock or troll, I s’pose. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/168 "2005-07-08T03:49:19Z")
> [@](#): > > eleanorigby : > I just don’t see why he bugged so many folks here–he is a teenage boy Wow, you give teenage boys a free pass on being assholes. Not sure if you’re real forgiving or condescending. Not that I’m cheering his banning. We should have kept him around for the noob test: anyone who responded seriously is outed as a non-regular. Haw. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/169 "2005-07-08T04:05:27Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > I just don’t see why he bugged so many folks here–he is a teenage boy (if he is a teen age boy). If he _is_ a teenage boy, he’s a dreadfully unpleasant one, who doesn’t learn from his mistakes and goes on using and abusing people. If he isn’t, he’s a shit-stirrer who’s preyed on the goodwill of people here, no doubt while feeling vastly amused at how stupid Dopers are here to be taken in by him. I vote phony, but I detested him even before I decided he was a chain-yanker. > [@](#): > > Not saying that you shouldn’t be bugged–just don’t share it. Oh, bullshit. That’s what the Pit is for. Whether you think he’s legit or not, he was annoying as all hell, despicable in the conduct he claimed, and an obnoxious leech on other folks’ good will. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/170 "2005-07-08T04:58:07Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > Not saying that you shouldn’t be bugged–just don’t share it. > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Oh, bullshit. That’s what the Pit is for. **ETF** , I could totally be wrong here, but by “just don’t share it,” I don’t think **eleanorigby** meant that you shouldn’t kvetch about **START** bugging you. I 'spect she was simply saying that she doesn’t share the **START** -buggery … er, buggedness … shoot, you know what I mean! As for me, when I read **START** ’s insanely detailed play-by-play of his alleged brother’s even more alleged death, I knew he was playing us. Your standard case of Munchausen by Proxy Server. It’s a version of Godwin’s Law: the deeper the hole a liar digs for himself, the probability that a relative will kick the bucket approaches one. ---
**Author:** ![fishbicycle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aeb1de/32.png) [@fishbicycle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fishbicycle)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/171 "2005-07-08T05:48:34Z")
I had to refrain from participating in his threads, and then stop reading them altogether, because the guy just set off my bullshit meter. The way he described himself, he is a thoroughly unpleasant person. I thought it was disgraceful the way he could set you guys to arguing in a thread about him where he never even showed up again, if at all. He was playing us, and I have reason to doubt the veracity of much of what I read. You gotta be a really good liar not to fuck up. And, well, he fucked up. Once again, my bullshit meter was right. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972/172 "2005-07-08T09:01:31Z")
He’s banned now, so I’m closing this thread. Lynn For the Straight Dope [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/start-get-a-livejournal/309972.md?page=8)