# Starving Artist Has Issues With Long Hair **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 12, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775 "2009-07-12T18:49:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/241 "2009-07-14T05:40:11Z")
Oh, fuck that shit! I’m too fucking pissed right now to get involved in splitting hairs over that crap! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/242 "2009-07-14T05:44:08Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Hey liar, shouldn’t you be asleep at this late hour? You’ve been accusing me of being a liar all through this thread despite that fact that you could never prove it when I challenged you. Neither could **mhendo**. Even after he pointed out that he merely called me dishonest, he still couldn’t point to an instance where I was. I’m certain that **Marley23** , the other member of the triad in that thread who accused me of lying or dishonesty, couldn’t have proven it either, had I been arsed to challenge him like I did you two. So take your stupid allegations, and your stupid smilies, and stick 'em up your stupid ass! Fuckstick! ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/243 "2009-07-14T05:47:36Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Oh, fuck that shit! > > I’m too fucking pissed right now to get involved in splitting hairs over that crap! I hope that, when you eventually calm down, you will be able to address it. Please note that whatever has gotten you so up in arms, it has, I think, nothing to do with **Lance Turbo** , **FinnAgain** , **Jester** , or me, and we all still deserve an answer. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/244 "2009-07-14T05:47:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You’ve been accusing me of being a liar all through this thread despite that fact that you could never prove it when I challenged you. Neither could **mhendo**. Even after he pointed out that he merely called me dishonest, he still couldn’t point to an instance where I was. I’m certain that **Marley23** , the other member of the triad in that thread who accused me of lying or dishonesty, couldn’t have proven it either, had I been arsed to challenge him like I did you two. > > So take your stupid allegations, and your stupid smilies, and stick 'em up your stupid ass! > > Fuckstick! Here you go, [liar](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11327508&postcount=4). Your histrionics are also against the rules of the pit. Calm down stupid. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/245 "2009-07-14T05:49:11Z")
No, you’ve pretty clearly been shown to be an unrepentant liar. Which is both why you’ve continually been lying about your “teen pregnancy is rampant!!!” schtick and why you’ve gone to such laughable lenghts to avoid admitting your mistake… all while repeating your fiction. I think that’s pretty much the definition of being a liar, and not repenting of one’s habit of lying. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/246 "2009-07-14T05:50:25Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > No, you’ve pretty clearly been shown to be an unrepentant liar. Cough up an instance, asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/247 "2009-07-14T05:52:08Z")
I think one alleged instance (alleged in the very post you just quoted) would be the manifest incongruity of your previous assertion regarding teenage pregnancy with the actual data as given in the aforementioned study of teen pregnancy rates; thus, all the more reason for you to address this. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/248 "2009-07-14T05:52:25Z")
Meltdowns are not pretty; **Starving Artist** , your patented hair splitting to get to deny that you were not being sincere or lying has bitten you here. \*\*Equipoise \*\*said “would not be surprised” or “probably” hardly worthy of the insults you are launching. You are however \*\*certain \*\*that he has insulted you. Pathetic when one considers the levels you are going to excuse yourself of doing anything wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/249 "2009-07-14T05:52:27Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Here you go, [liar](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11327508&postcount=4). No lies there. > [@Lobohan](#): > > Your histrionics are also against the rules of the pit. You are correct. I’ve forgotten myself. My apologies to the board’s administration. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/250 "2009-07-14T05:55:58Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No lies there. Based on your standards on what is supposed to be an insult, I have to say your standards on what is a lie or a misleading statement are also way off the mark. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/251 "2009-07-14T05:58:20Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Meltdowns are not pretty… No meltdown here. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > **Starving Artist** , your patented hair splitting to get to deny that you were not being sincere or lying has bitten you here. Where? > [@GIGObuster](#): > > \*\*Equipoise \*\*said “would not be surprised” or “probably” hardly worthy of the insults you are launching. You are however \*\*certain \*\*that he has insulted you. **Equipoise** is a big, fat, gray-haired old biddy, and not a man. Nor even much of a woman if you ask me, but she has the requisite parts. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > Pathetic when one considers the levels you are going to excuse yourself of doing anything wrong. Such as? This hardly even makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/252 "2009-07-14T06:00:00Z")
> [@Indistinguishable](#): > > I hope that, when you eventually calm down, you will be able to address it. Please note that whatever has gotten you so up in arms, it has, I think, nothing to do with **Lance Turbo** , **FinnAgain** , **Jester** , or me, and we all still deserve an answer. I guess you should remove my name from the list now. 😃 I’ve simply lost patience. A while ago, I’d have done my best (and did, in the past) to reach SA with facts and logic. The post of mine that’s been linked is a good example. And for my trouble the facts were ignored, fictions were (and still are being) repeated and direct factual refutation was cast as somehow rephrasing and distorting his argument. Turnspeak, btw, pisses me off to no end. I wouldn’t put up with this absurd bigoted fallacious fungiblity in anybody else and since SA once struck me as somewhat rational, I suppose I’ve wasted too much time in trying to argue reason with him. He’s not interested in reason. He’s interested in some bigoted, fictional weirdness about how evil liberals are and what they believe/do/did/want. So let him be up in arms. By this point, I have seen him deliberately and repeatedly use something that he has to know is a fiction, in order to support his position. I have nothing but contempt for that sort of dishonesty. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/253 "2009-07-14T06:04:31Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Based on your standards on what is supposed to be an insult, I have to say your standards on what is a lie or a misleading statement are also way off the mark. What the fuck are you talking about? What standards have I proposed on what is supposed to be an insult. Ah, nevermind. It’s clear you’re just out to stir up shit and I’m not in the mood to indulge you. > [@FinnAgain](#): > > So let him be up in arms. By this point, I have seen him deliberately and repeatedly use something that he has to know is a fiction, in order to support his position. I have nothing but contempt for that sort of dishonesty. And yet you curiously continue to fail to post what you are referring to as a lie, unrepentant or otherwise, on my part. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/254 "2009-07-14T06:06:34Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No meltdown here. Where? > > **Equipoise** is a big, fat, gray-haired old biddy, and not a man. Nor even much of a woman if you ask me, but she has the requisite parts. > > Such as? This hardly even makes sense. That happens when you are trying to avoid dealing with the fact that you are looking like an idiot for insulting someone that just said “probably”. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/255 "2009-07-14T06:11:26Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > What the fuck are you talking about? What standards have I proposed on what is supposed to be an insult. > > Ah, nevermind. It’s clear you’re just out to stir up shit and I’m not in the mood to indulge you. You are using virtually the same logic on assuming a horrid insult from Equipoise, as the logic that you are using to deny that you lied or were misleading regarding the Hannity editing at FOX. That is, none. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/256 "2009-07-14T06:12:58Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And yet you curiously continue to fail to post what you are referring to as a lie, unrepentant or otherwise, on my part. As already pointed out by **Indistinguishable** , I stated exactly what you were lying about two of my posts back. It’s been cited and quoted by several other posters who have, likewise, attempted to get you to address let alone retract your fiction. You are, evidently, lying about me not having pointed out what you were lying about. It’s kinda… meta. And I’m done. I’ve seen you go from someone who at least appeared interested in honest debate to this weird caricature of a partisan ideologue one (small) step away from Freeper status. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/257 "2009-07-14T06:21:22Z")
Neither you nor anyone else has managed thus far to make a convincing case that by referring to the second Hannity omission, I was lying about the existence of the first, which was simply not the one I wanted to comment on. The fact that you and **Lobohan** have latched onto such a feeble occurrance in your efforts to label me a liar doesn’t speak too well of your own honesty or integrity. > [@FinnAgain](#): > > I stated exactly what you were lying about two of my posts back… _Teen pregnancy is rampant_? That’s your excuse for calling me a liar? It is rampant! What is in question is whether it’s worse now or in the past, and I’ll look into that when I feel like it, not when you demand I do. When I’ve had a chance to look into it and analyze things, I’ll make a comment. Capiche? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/258 "2009-07-14T06:37:00Z")
Yah, it’s real hard to tell if it was more common in the 50s, when it reached the highest point in our history of record keeping, or 2000, when it was at the lowest. You’d have to engaged in advanced mathematical analysis, like being able to tell which of two numbers is bigger. It takes a lot of time to do that. Surely close to a year. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/259 "2009-07-14T06:38:15Z")
What a sad old man you are **Artist**. I do wish you’ll find peace soon. I’d hate to be alive in a time when I couldn’t stand the world around me. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775/260 "2009-07-14T06:43:34Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Neither you nor anyone else has managed thus far to make a convincing case that by referring to the second Hannity omission, I was lying about the existence of the first, which was simply not the one I wanted to comment on. > > The fact that you and **Lobohan** have latched onto such a feeble occurrance in your efforts to label me a liar doesn’t speak too well of your own honesty or integrity. Hah! On the post on the top of this page it is clear to what I was referring to when I said that our faulty logic was biting you now. You are being dishonest for avoiding dealing with you idiocy of assuming that \*\*Equimopse \*\*insulted you and your only answer was for you to point out a meaningless gender issue. Based on your efforts to deny that you lied, I have to assume you are smart enough to conclude that you avoided dealing with your “I’m insulted by Equimopse” nonsense on that post on purpose. > [@](#): > > _Teen pregnancy is rampant_? That’s your excuse for calling me a liar? It is rampant! What is in question is whether it’s worse now or in the past, and I’ll look into that when I feel like it, not when you demand I do. When I’ve had a chance to look into it and analyze things, I’ll make a comment. Capiche? And that is supposed to show honesty and integrity? There was plenty of time to read it before coming back with more nonsense, Cretino! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-has-issues-with-long-hair/502775.md?page=14)