# Starving Artist: Totally Insane? Or Just Almost? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 13, 2008, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678 "2008-10-13T05:04:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/461 "2008-10-21T06:19:38Z")
And lets _not_ forget how [civilized](http://www.corpun.com/11371.jpg) [advertising](http://www.corpun.com/3398.jpg) was way back when! No making fun of white males as ignorant tools! No sir! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/462 "2008-10-21T06:27:12Z")
You’ve got to be kidding me! Those look bogus as hell. For one thing, the woman in the first picture looks too modern for such an ad, and the man’s clothing appears way more dated. And in the second, Cream of Tartar is morphed into Scream of Tartar. A gag, I suspect. Care to post any cites as to just where these ads actually appeared? ---
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/463 "2008-10-21T07:04:25Z")
Wikipedia’s [article](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_and_Sanborn) on Chase & Sanborn states > [@](#): > > In more recent times, an antique advertisement depicting a husband spanking his wife for not buying quality coffee has been circulated around the Internet. This has been reprinted as an example of the sexism that was purportedly considered more acceptable during that time period. The article is uncited, so I don’t take it to mean anything. A google search yielded [this.](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chase%20sanborn) Again, not conclusive evidence for or against. ---
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/464 "2008-10-21T07:15:13Z")
Further searching revealed a site with lots of old ads, including the spanking for coffee one. It’s about midway down on [this page.](http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/vintage_sexist_advertising/page/6/) Another favourite [here.](http://pzrservices.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/17/sexist_old_ad.jpg) An unrelated favourite: [http://pzrservices.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/01/soda\_ad.jpg](http://pzrservices.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/01/soda_ad.jpg) So it looks real, from what I can find. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/465 "2008-10-21T07:21:38Z")
> [@Claptree](#): > > Further searching revealed a site with lots of old ads, including the spanking for coffee one. It’s about midway down on [this page.](http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/vintage_sexist_advertising/page/6/) Another favourite [here.](http://pzrservices.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/17/sexist_old_ad.jpg) > > An unrelated favourite: [http://pzrservices.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/01/soda\_ad.jpg](http://pzrservices.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/01/soda_ad.jpg) > > So it looks real, from what I can find. Yeah, [spanking has been a real advertising meme over the years.](http://www.corpun.com/sell.htm) ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/466 "2008-10-21T08:33:55Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > …And now, I really do have to get back to consequential life. Try not to make me come back here again, mmkay? Took you all of four minutes to ooze some more drivel shortly after the above declarative mantra: “I am a Conservative with a productive life outside this Board.” And no, I am not bring whooshed in the least – it’s just that now that you’ve been called out on your faux IRL BS, you’re desperately trying to make light of it. To no avail of course, for you remain the utterly brain-dead caricature of what you try to portray. As **Frank** mentioned upthread I am rather mystified this thread has gone for as long as it has – can’t imagine why anyone would give a flying fuck about what _you_ “think.” Misnomer right from the get go as it is obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together that you’re missing at least one. Being kind as is my nature of course. Bye the bye, I am in a rush as I have the busiest of liberal days tomorrow. It involves caviar and babes of course, as that is the only way we lefties conduct business. Hard work I must say. Never you mind though. I’ll raise my latte-drinking pinky on your behalf while toasting to your soon to be anachronistic\* irrelevance. Just don’t wait up for a response to whatever inanities you may come up with.Good time as any to get your Conservative ass busy. For real. \*both in your pathetically laughable ‘recall’ of yesteryear and in your selective indictment of today’s society. * * * That said, **Mr. S** , surely you have better and far more worthy adversaries than these particularity dogmatic monkeys sans a brain,a.k.a., turdllectuals. As in **_Sans_ Stone** , the Kanadian Man-'O-War behind his monitor, Uber-Manly **Scylla** , him of the peerless daughter, openly racist SS **Polecat** , bat-shit mad **Starvin** , parrot-like **Magellan##** and countless other Right-tards. But hey, great to have you back – perhaps there are still windmills to tilt at if only for the benefit of those not in the know. And no one better to set them straight than you. Cheers, **~Red** ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/467 "2008-10-21T09:09:26Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > I’m a paleoconservative. I disagree with specific issues of my fellow paleoconservatives, because I view the past slightly differently than they do. For example, I believe that throwing the government the hell out of my house is far more important than preserving the sanctity of marriage. I know exactly how weird certain things were in the past, and they worked just fine that way. Wow. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/468 "2008-10-21T09:48:18Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > Took you all of four minutes to ooze some more drivel shortly after the above declarative mantra: “I am a Conservative with a productive life outside this Board.” The comment was in reference to the need to go out and do some work vs. shooting the shit on a message board; it had nothing to do with politics. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/469 "2008-10-21T10:59:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Keep in mind that the things that make a country great can also lead to its destruction. Japan’s pride, industry and military valor won her an empire. Got her nuked, as well. I could write a few pages about the horrible, horrible, horrible perversion of Japanese values the pre-WWII Bushido code was. Suffice it to say that xenophobia to the degree that cannibalism is routinely carried out is _not_ a good thing, and the Japanese Army that fought in WWII is not the same one that beat the Russians with such skill and honor the Russians saluted them. Tojo is a lot more like a neocon than anything else I can describe. > [@elucidator](#): > > If by “great”, you mean living up to and honoring a revolutionary heritage of democratic equality for its people, that can be done with the budget of Belgium and the military might of Costa Rica. I mean, among other things, innovation, inspiration, and dignity for every man. I don’t mean the government made this country great, I mean that the people made this country great. (Even if a sizable percentage of them were assholes.) Government budget doesn’t matter there. > [@elucidator](#): > > I fully expect to depend on my fellow citizens for my general security, as I fully expect them to rely on me. I fail to see how that weakens either of us. Quite the opposite. You’re not Starving Artist, now are you? For you, it’s part of your code. I don’t say a single bad thing about it for you, Lucy. You’re not a hypocrite. He is. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/470 "2008-10-21T11:02:23Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Wow. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. I think, if I remember and have the spare time, (hey, what can I say, I admit, I’m human), I should start a thread about what the New Conservatism should value. Basically, ‘Take the Libertarian Party, and throw out the moronic shit.’ Of course, what, precisely, consists of the moronic shit, is, ah, extremely subject to disagreement. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/471 "2008-10-21T11:23:14Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > I think, if I remember and have the spare time, (hey, what can I say, I admit, I’m human), I should start a thread about what the New Conservatism should value. Basically, ‘Take the Libertarian Party, and throw out the moronic shit.’ > > Of course, what, precisely, consists of the moronic shit, is, ah, extremely subject to disagreement. Fair enough. I did have a look at [Bob Barr’s website](http://www.bobbarr2008.com/issues/) and while I agree that the PATRIOT Act is an abomination against all that America stands for, that we meddle too much militarily in foreign affairs and that the Federal Government ought to shut up about marriage, the thought of leaving monetary policy and welfare systems to the whim of the free market - especially these days - fills me with horror. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678.md?page=23)