# Starving Artist: Totally Insane? Or Just Almost?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2008, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678 "2008-10-13T05:04:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-totally-insane-or-just-almost/467678/405 "2008-10-20T12:06:27Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I’ve heard it argued over and over around here that civility had to go in order to eliminate racism, and you either damn well know it or you spend a lot less time around here than I would think.

Maybe you are the one who is misrepresenting what everyone else is saying. Maybe everyone is saying, “We get that you criticize liberals for the crassness of modern culture, but don’t forget that it was liberals who achieved civil rights for minorities, and conservatives who opposed them. So it is unfair to criticize what liberals have done to society (assuming that you are even right about that) without acknowledging the good they have done,; nor is it fair for you to praise conservatives while ignoring conservatism’s ugly history.” That seems like a reasonable response to what you are saying.

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