# Starving Artist - we remember you

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 3, 2014, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204 "2014-12-03T04:53:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/21 "2014-12-03T14:07:12Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> I have no love, and little respect, for \*\*Starving Artist \*\*or his attitudes and opinions, but this essentially preemptive pitting on the basis of stuff he said long ago (and probably regrets), seems to me to be both uncalled-for and mean.

Seems pretty emptive to me.

> [@zoid](#):
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> Why would you assume he regrets his past statements?

Because it might cost him the Latino vote?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/22 "2014-12-03T14:09:49Z")

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I endorse this pitting. While Starving Artist was by no means the only disgusting one in the Paterno thread, he was by far the worst and most horrible.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/23 "2014-12-03T14:36:44Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Real conservatives don’t support proven enablers of child rape, you loathsome piece of shit. You talk about people taking responsibility for their actions, but that’s exactly what Paterno and Sandusky failed to do. Hypocritical fuckbag.

Not to de-rail a well deserved pitting, but wtf does being a “real conservative” have to do with anything? Just liberals support enablers of child rape?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/24 "2014-12-03T14:40:57Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Meh. **Frank’s** just butthurt because I won the Paterno thread,

Gee, if only the leaders of PSU had the benefit of reading your words of wisdom, they could have saved themselves the expense of taking down Paterno’s statue and erasing his name from the university.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/25 "2014-12-03T14:41:10Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> **Starving** ’s having a _Rashomon_ moment…

It is a rather ‘flexible’ definition of ‘won’ considering that people _who weren’t reading that thread_ know about his paper towel tube infamy.

Its like diving into a river of shit in your best suit to recover a quarter you dropped and declaring victory when you find it.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/26 "2014-12-03T15:24:13Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> While many of the conservatives on this board can’t quite bring themselves to actually criticize or disown him, it’s rare that one of them, especially among the thoughtful, will support him or rely on him in a debate. That should tell you something.

I don’t own him. How could disowning him work?

However, I did undertake an extended debate with him once. We ended by agreeing to disagree.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/27 "2014-12-03T15:27:30Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> One of my favorite (as in, not sure whether to laugh or feel immense pity) posts from **SA** is [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15572342#post15572342), in which he expounds on naked hugs in the shower between men and boys, and how they happen all over the world and are probably mostly innocent.

[Newt]_mostly_[/Newt]

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/28 "2014-12-03T15:35:22Z")

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I for one have missed **Starving Artist** ’s performance art, lowbrow as it may be, and look forward to him bravely making an utter tit of himself for our entertainment as he has so many times in the past. Shine on, you crazy diamond.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/29 "2014-12-03T15:38:35Z")

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I opened this thread and now have Starving Artist cooties. I feel the need for a virus scan and prolonged shower.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/30 "2014-12-03T15:40:05Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> **Starving** ’s having a _Rashomon_ moment…

You don’t need to drag Kurosawa down into this little cesspool.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/31 "2014-12-03T15:43:37Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Its like diving into a river of shit in your best suit to recover a quarter you dropped and declaring victory when you find it.

Except it’s not really a quarter you find, but a shiny turd.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/32 "2014-12-03T15:49:45Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I’ll tell you what, here’s a chance for you to get rid of me. Why don’t you start a poll asking which one of us—you or me—people would prefer to have around? We can agree on a minimum number of voters, and on any other criteria for who is allowed to vote. Then, after the poll, the loser agrees to leave and never come back. That would allow you to test your theories about whether or not my departure would be felt to be an improvement to the board.

As long as there are also choices for both of you to leave and for neither of you to leave…then we’d also find out who thinks both of you are odious and who thinks neither of you are of any great importance wrt their enjoyment of the board. That last category will, I suspect, garner the most votes.

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**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/33 "2014-12-03T16:09:35Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Meh. **Frank’s** just butthurt because I won the Paterno thread…

Irony of being butthurt for losing a Paterno debate aside, is there a trophy for this? Please tell me there is a trophy for this.

A medal, perhaps? Starbucks gift card? BOGO coupon at Target? Anything?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/34 "2014-12-03T16:16:52Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Meh. **Frank’s** just butthurt because I won the Paterno thread …

Rarely have I seen such an incredibly high amount of self-delusion in a single sentence.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/35 "2014-12-03T16:22:08Z")

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> [@FuriousGeorge](#):
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> Irony of being butthurt for losing a Paterno debate aside, is there a trophy for this? Please tell me there is a trophy for this.
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> A medal, perhaps? Starbucks gift card? BOGO coupon at Target? Anything?

We could throw him a shower?

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/36 "2014-12-03T16:24:04Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> We could throw him a shower?

No hugging!

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**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/37 "2014-12-03T16:24:20Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> We could throw him a shower?

Perfect, I’ll invite my Uncle Jerry. He loves showers.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/38 "2014-12-03T16:40:00Z")

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**Starving Artist** is a living legend of the Dope. Gotta respect your elders. Everyone loves to hate him and he loves to be hated – the perfect heel. Without him, this place just isn’t as lively. He’s dropped more zingers in a couple days than the rest of the conservative contingent in six months.

> [@Starving Artist](#):
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> Somehow I have no difficulty at all in believing men find it easy to control themselves sexually where you’re concerned.

_Are you not entertained?_

Do the one about how life was better before the hippies and beatniks ruined everything. That’s my favorite.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/39 "2014-12-03T16:52:49Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> Not to de-rail a well deserved pitting, but wtf does being a “real conservative” have to do with anything? Just liberals support enablers of child rape?

Oh fuck, no, and I apologise for my poor wording making it seem like that. My opinion is that **Starving Artist** is claiming that he is somehow representative of conservatives, and I wanted to make sure I (and others I respect) aren’t associated with him. It was in no way my intention to associate anyone else with him!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/40 "2014-12-03T16:59:21Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I don’t own him. How could disowning him work?
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> However, I did undertake an extended debate with him once. We ended by agreeing to disagree.

Was he honest with you in that debate? If he was, you should bookmark it.

I think you actually described him pretty accurately in the thread you started about teen pregnancy:

> [@Tings Were Better In the Fifties, Vol. I: Teen Pregnancy (the SA debate series)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tings-were-better-in-the-fifties-vol-i-teen-pregnancy-the-sa-debate-series/515996/93):
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> **Starving Artist** has already made clear that he has no interest in debating. His _modus operandi_ is simply to assert things he finds to be self-evident. As I said to him in the Pit thread, that’s fine… but not in GD.

As for your question about disowning, you can be disingenuous if you want, but you know precisely what i meant.

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