# Starving Artist - we remember you **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2014, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204 "2014-12-03T04:53:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/421 "2014-12-08T16:44:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > These are not the accusations against Paterno. Rather, Paterno had enough information reported to him to suspect that child-rape may have been occurring, and failed to do enough to confirm whether this was the case or not, and failed to do enough to prevent it in the future. JoePa is guilty of prioritizing legacy, reputation, and other things over ensuring no child-rape was occurring. Exactly. As I and many others were at exhaustive pains to point out. > [@Frylock](#): > > I believe the number of Dopers who think he won is zero. (Excluding himself of course.) There was an informal count kept. For a while, we thought there was another. But in the end, the needle settled firmly against the zero peg. > [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > … > Besides which, he did not achieve infamy for pointing out the issues you name. He did so for his claims to having proven the alleged shower rape was physically impossible, his thoughts on the typicality of shower hugs between men and boys, his thought experiments involving lining up 100 ten year old boys and asking them about anal sex, and of course the pinnacle, his incontrovertible paper towel tube demonstration. > … Again – exactly. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/422 "2014-12-08T16:47:37Z")
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/423 "2014-12-08T18:08:00Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > nm Yes, save yourself; in the name of all that’s holy don’t get sucked into this morass yet again. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/424 "2014-12-08T18:31:45Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So, given that you admittedly had pretty severe problems with reading comprehension in regard to my post you decided to call me out on it anyway? > > It shows. > > I’ve never said that liberals are responsible for all the nation’s ills. I’ve only said they’re responsible for the ones I’ve said they’re responsible for…which are major but not quite all encompassing. > > I’ll grant you your confusion over the habitual criminal rape vs. rape again in the paragraph that followed. I had in mind Cosby-esque types of rape when I mentioned it the second time as contrasted with the type of rape often perpetrated by gang members and hardened criminals, and I can see in retrospect that I failed to make that distinction clear. > > Regarding the rest of your post, there’s much to explain and much to criticize but I’m in a mellow mood tonight and don’t feel like investing the time energy to do so now. I’ll try to post a rebuttal tomorrow but for now I’ll just say that it’s clear you are large part of the problem. **SA** I wasn’t addressing you in that post. I was addressing **Heff**. We’d been having a conversation. There’s no need to come back a rebut anything. Really. **Hentor** Query. “Cosby-esque” = Jackpot? > [@](#): > > It should be obvious even to a moron that to be raped while unconscious is going to be a less unpleasant experience than to be raped by some vicious and likely sadistic career criminal. Answer = yes. We have a new “rape scale”. ::shudder:: “Cosby-esque”, first-time offender, repeat-offender. Although where does rape by a “Cosby-esque” offender go? 'Cause that’s definitely a repeater right there. Social Promotion “versus” Rape > [@](#): > > No, social promotion (an ironic euphemism if I ever heard one) utterly destroys lives. The only thing it accomplishes is the exact opposite of what it’s ostensibly intended to do, which is salvage the student’s self-esteem. How much self-esteem do you think an adult who can’t speak properly or read road signs or fill out a job application or hold down a job paying enough to support himself or his family is going to have? It destroys lives. Rape victims can still date worthwhile people, get married, have careers, buy homes, raise kids who aren’t embarrassed that their parents are illiterate, etc., etc., etc. Being illiterate is not worse than being raped. It’s just not. 5 seconds on the Google will let you find myriad links on the difficulty rape survivors have in dating, marriage, and careers. Slightly longer (thank you search function) will find you many threads here on the Dope from survivors and their partners exploring those same issues. If you are sincerely interested, I will help you find some of these. Illiterate people can become educated. They can date. They can marry. They can procreate with or without marriage. They may or may not be ashamed. You assume a lot about their condition. Finally, on civil rights. > [@](#): > > This isn’t true. Nor is it true that I ever said, as you’ve claimed, that they should have been given their civil rights more slowly. > > Either you are just congenitally incapable of correctly parsing things you don’t want to hear, or profoundly dishonest, or a moron. Or maybe all of them. Read Post #105. **Hentor** already pulled a bunch of your previous posts on this topic. Yes, you did say we should have done it more slowly. Literally, that word. No one misinterpreted you. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/425 "2014-12-08T18:59:44Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > **Hentor** Query. “Cosby-esque” = Jackpot? IMHO, not close. Jackpot = guffawing uncontrollably, tears streaming down face. YMMV. > [@](#): > > Read Post #105. **Hentor** already pulled a bunch of your previous posts on this topic. Yes, you did say we should have done it more slowly. Literally, that word. No one misinterpreted you. Oh, he has no problem denying anything even with the evidence in his face (see, e.g., the golden rule thing in this thread or the winning of the Paterno thread). Evidence won’t shake his delusions. BTW, I didn’t find the original instance, nor did I come close to citing all examples of his expressing that particular idiocy. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/426 "2014-12-08T19:23:48Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > IMHO, not close. Jackpot = guffawing uncontrollably, tears streaming down face. YMMV. Well, I laughed pretty hard when I first read it. Cause you know, it’s all ok if it’s the Cos! He’s not rapey at all. He’s fun! Further elaborations have upped the ick factor.:mad: ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/427 "2014-12-08T19:42:34Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > There was an informal count kept. For a while, we thought there was another. But in the end, the needle settled firmly against the zero peg. **FP** was defending **SA** as making salient points. Still is, actually, looking at some of the more recent posts here. I’m not sure if that technically counts, though. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/428 "2014-12-08T19:47:17Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And no, I never claimed to prove standing anal rape of a juvenile was impossible. I claimed it wasn’t possible for the 60-year-old, 6’2" Jerry Sandusky to achieve it while in the position described by Mike McQueary. And it gets funnier each time. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/429 "2014-12-08T20:40:23Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > And you keep saying you don’t want to debate, and then keep accusing me of committing these rhetorical offenses, but failing to specify how I am doing so. It’s pretty poor form. > > And again, you said that disparate treatment of African Americans was immoral. Now you’re saying that it would not have been immoral to allow it to persist. I’m getting the impression that you don’t really know what you’re talking about. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > This isn’t true. Nor is it true that I ever said, as you’ve claimed, that they should have been given their civil rights more slowly. **Hentor** , unless you can show that **Starving Artist** posted what you claimed despite his assertion that he didn’t, your argument doesn’t have any validity. It could have been that the status of African-Americans could have risen at the same rate or faster under a different policy. If it could have, your claims of immorality disappear. One of the reasons I am unwilling to debate the underlying issue is because I’m beginning to realize that you’re distorting what was posted. The other reason is that I don’t have the background in the subject matter since the argument came from another thread. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/430 "2014-12-08T20:59:18Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > One of the reasons I am unwilling to debate the underlying issue is because I’m beginning to realize that you’re distorting what was posted. This is something he does constantly. Lies and distortions are all he has so that’s what he goes with. A couple other examples are when he’s claimed in the past that I said black people got the bends from giving them their rights too soon, and he continues to try to inject pedophilic salaciousness into my challenge of a bet as to whether a group of kids would agree with the claim that a hug in the shower was every bit as bad as anal rape…but really just about anything he posts in rebuttal to a post he doesn’t like is going to contain dishonest bullshit. Cites are definitely in order in discussing any claims he’s made about what someone he disagrees with has said. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/431 "2014-12-08T21:14:13Z")
Even if we were to throw out everything he said, that would still leave a vast number of people who think you are a reactionary nitwit. In alphabetical order: Aardvark, Aaron A… ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/432 "2014-12-08T21:21:56Z")
Oh, it comes as no surprise to me that on a board composed to a significant degree of rabid liberals that strong criticism of liberalism would be met with opposition. It’s just too bad that the opposition has to contain so much dishonesty. On the other hand, maybe it’s not so bad. You know what I say when people have to lie about or distort what I’ve said in order to rebut my remarks…it means I’m WINNING!! So there’s that. And I’m cool with it. ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/433 "2014-12-08T21:24:23Z")
“Lies and distortions” are all you’ve got, **SA** , when it comes to your apologia for men showering with boys. Here’s a post from another thread wherein you spell out your insane world view: (sorry everybody, it’s long but illustrative) > [@If after 50 f'n pages, you are still trying to engage SA; YOU ARE DUMB!!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/206): > > I do not agree that for a boy and a man to be in a shower together is automatically a crime. As a boy I’d been in many public swimming pools with adult men. And the fact is that millions of boys of boys are showering or bathing with grown men all over the world to no ill effect. Further, there are tribal areas in the world (and no, I’m not talking about hippie communes, love-ins, “naked bike rides” or gay pride demonstrations) where children are exposed to adult nudity every day of their lives, also to no ill effect. > > Now, just for shits and giggles, let’s consider the following scenario. Let’s say there’s a boy from an underpriviliged background who has gotten to know Jerry Sandusky through his Second Mile work. And let’s say that boy is about to graduate grade school and start junior high where he knows he’ll be in phys ed classes and required to shower. But for whatever reason he’s never been in a shower in his life and has always taken baths. This makes him feel insecure and worried that he’ll embarrass himself 'cause he won’t know the protocol and the other kids will make fun of him. So, having found Sandusky to be someone who cares about him, someone non-judgemental who he feels comfortable with and can talk to freely, he asks Jerry Sandusky to teach him the routine of showering at school. Perhaps his father, not knowing of the allegations against Sandusky, even suggested it himself. Who better to teach your kid locker room comportment than a manly big-time college football coach, huh? > > I can see this scenario played out with young boys and Big Brothrrs or mentors all over the country and I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. The only fly in the ointment in this case is that the mentor is Jerry Sandusky, and Paterno, perhaps having been told earlier that in his role as mentor Sandusky had been teaching kids to shower from time to time and thought nothing of it. I would have thought nothing of it myself and I’m a generation younger than Paterno. Then let’s say Paterno gets wind of the 1998 complaint that a mother complained that Sandusky hugged her kid in the shower. He likely feels Sandusky was merely being encouraging or expressing affection of a wholesome and fleeting nature and that the mother was being over-protective and foolish. Then he hears McQueary’s report and isn’t sure whether Sandusky was really misbehaving with kids or whether there was some other, more innocent explanation and McQueary simply misread what he saw. So, being unsure whether anything bad had happened or not, he duly passes the report up to his superiors as the law prescribes, figuring they’ll determine whether there was anything bad going on and what should be done about it, then he returns his attention to the 24/7 job of being a football coach. > > See? Easy-peasy to see how all this could have gone down with no moral failure on Paterno’s part, and no belief that a man showering with a boy was a crime…which is stupid if it is and emblematic of the equally-stupid CYA practice of making certain things always wrong even if they aren’t. It’s idiotic bullshit like that which gets young girls charged with distributing child porn for sending a naked photo of themselves to their friends and punishing six-year-old boys for sexual harrassment because they kissed a girl on the cheek. No telling what kind of fucked-up relationship problems these kids are gonna have twenty years from now. To which I felt compelled to reply as below. My opinion of **SA** has not changed for the better over the intervening time. > [@If after 50 f'n pages, you are still trying to engage SA; YOU ARE DUMB!!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-after-50-fn-pages-you-are-still-trying-to-engage-sa-you-are-dumb/611405/224): > > Oh my. Wow. Just wow. > > Once upon a time I held a certain opinion of SA. My Partisan Meter was in the high range. My Whack Job Meter registered (depending on the exact thread) somewhere in the medium area. And my Skeevy Meter usually twitched around someplace below the half way mark. He was sometimes entertaining, in a “what kind of creepy bug is that, anyway?” kind of way. After the above quoted post (not to discount others in this thread and the other thread, most of which I have been unable to force myself to read) my opinion has changed. > > My Partisan Meter reads basically the same, as I’ve seen only the usual amount of misplaced blame directed at SA’s favorite “Librul” targets. (Again, I may have missed something, but I’m not gonna read any more of his nonsense to find out.) But now my Whack Job Meter has bent past the peg and continues to spin uncontrollably around the dial, actually creating a small, inrushing vortex of SA-Crazy as it does so. I’ve had to put a bucket over it until a technician with protective gear arrives. And my Skeevy Meter has snapped off the peg, spun at near light speed, shattered its cover glass, and finally exploded into a huge cloud of disgust particles which are settling everywhere around my desk. What a mess! > > Really, SA, you’re beyond the fart in the punch bowl, or the giant steaming turdpile in the parlor. You’re like some disgusting vermin with a positive self image, too stupid and too self important to remain underneath the rock that might charitably hide you from observers. You scuttle out and make your loathsome comments in the clear light of day when you would be better off inscribing them in your most secret diary. And then burning the diary. > > You have in the past displayed yourself to be astoundingly and overpoweringly impervious to fact and to reason. You always (well, maybe there was one exception somewhere, sometime, but I’m not really expecting contradiction here) present your own fantasies and apocryphal stories (it’s hard to tell which is what) as factual evidence, and cling rigidly to them in the face of all actual proof to the contrary, even embellishing and expanding upon your fictions as if your ever more fevered imaginings were the same as finding supportive cites. You’ve taken such to a whole new level in this very thread. Hell, you’ve carried it to a whole new universe. > > In point of fact, you’ve repeatedly rejected using actual cites as not being to your liking, condemning them (as I believe I correctly recall) in favor of your own “life experience”. No surprise really, since on the rare occasions you’ve offered a cite it has turned out to make a case opposite to whatever you thought it was proving. > > You might be a troll, but I think instead that you are profoundly disturbed. Your ongoing and logarithmically increasing apologia for pedophilia makes that clear. I’ve known a few people in my life whose world view was as much at odds with objective reality as yours. Luckily for them, they were undergoing intensive psychological therapy. You might consider doing the same. Or you might not. > > I’ll not use the ‘ignore’ feature because I have my own right here, called a scroll wheel. I’m sure I will still take an occasional glance at your demented maunderings, and might even get out my poking stick (the one I use to turn piles of excrement in the yard) once in a while when it suits my fancy. I can sometimes enjoy a chortle at the people on Jerry Springer just like most people, although not as a steady diet. But I will be careful to put on my rubber gloves first. Because now you thoroughly disgust me. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/434 "2014-12-08T21:37:41Z")
So you decided to post comments I made fairly early on in the thread before it became clear what Sandusky had been doing and in response to having been asked what besides rape it could possibly have been, and it is this you choose to use in your attempt to defend accusations that you’re distorting what I’ve said? Yes, I said a lot of things in the earlier stages of that thread that I wouldn’t have said later on as more information became available. You know it and I know it. You’re simply hoping that by taking things out of context and playing to a sympathetic audience you’ll get some sort of Brownie points. But you’re a dishonest piece of shit too, and posting misleading comments that I eventually came to change my mind on amounts once again to lies and distortion…and in my humble opinion, more – WINNING!! 🙂 And now I’m out for the day. Rag on. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/435 "2014-12-08T21:47:11Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > “Lies and distortions” are all you’ve got, **SA** , when it comes to your apologia for men showering with boys. Here’s a post from another thread wherein you spell out your insane world view: (sorry everybody, it’s long but illustrative) > > To which I felt compelled to reply as below. My opinion of **SA** has not changed for the better over the intervening time. It’s all that tiger blood. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/436 "2014-12-08T21:59:26Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So you decided to post comments I made fairly early on in the thread before it became clear what Sandusky had been doing and in response to having been asked what besides rape it could possibly have been, and it is this you choose to use in your attempt to defend accusations that you’re distorting what I’ve said? That’s actually post #206 out of 249 in its particular thread. If the only way you can defend yourself is to post misleading claims about **CannyDan** ’s citations, that must mean you’re…LOSING!! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/437 "2014-12-08T22:12:33Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > That’s not quite it. It’s that this board has a huge problem with what they term “white knighting,” which in this case is sticking up for someone you vehemently disagree with. You don’t have to hate someone, but you are expected not to defend them unless it’s begrudgingly. And you definitely are not allowed to comment on how other people are acting. > > It’s the same reason I would get called out for defending people who were getting piled on. In fact, I’ve seen our names lumped together in that regard on certain other boards. > > The one thing you do better is that you figured out how to do it without getting people to hate you. I just basically gave up. Though part of that is because I see less of it, and often see other people doing it for me. Occasionally, I’ll do the “begrudging defense” thing, but I mostly just stay out of it. > > I also may have become more likely to think the person deserves it–don’t know if that’s a good thing or not. Like, I wouldn’t have chosen to defend SA, even though my only real problem with him is the rape thing. I also think his stuff about how the world was better off in the 50s was silly, but I haven’t seen that in a while. (That was him, right?) > > Sorry to ramble. But my point is, I think the reason people don’t like what you are doing is that they think your defense is too vigorous, and too much like covering up other person’s problems. You don’t have to hate him, but you shouldn’t like him, either. Jesus fucking Roosevelt Christ, I might see your point if this thread weren’t scattered with my posts rebuking, disagreeing, or ridiculing the most idiotic of his beliefs. Neither have I said a word about how others are behaving. It’s clear he gives just as much as he gets, I’m hardly broken up over this pitting, in fact I was one of the first posters in to say I fucking _endorse_ it, because I’ve been slogging through all his bullshit in the Six Threads of Rape Week over the past several weeks of rape. The idea that I’ve issued some kind of sweeping defense of his views or his behavior is a gross mischaracterization, which people might fucking realize if they’d been in on the rapey fun from the beginning. That my outrage doesn’t rise to the level mandated by the Teeming Millions is tempered by the fact that he’s been competing lately with fucktards like **crucible** and **kstarnes**. Fuck ‘‘white knight,’’ it’s a bullshit phrase people use to discredit someone they don’t agree with. I give two fucks about what people on other message boards think. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/438 "2014-12-08T23:10:50Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Oh, it comes as no surprise to me that on a board composed to a significant degree of rabid liberals that strong criticism of liberalism would be met with opposition. It’s just too bad that the opposition has to contain so much dishonesty. > > On the other hand, maybe it’s not so bad. You know what I say when people have to lie about or distort what I’ve said in order to rebut my remarks…it means I’m WINNING!! > > So there’s that. > > And I’m cool with it. **Starving Artist** derp dee derp. Derp dee derpity derpy derp. Until one day, the derpa derpa derpaderp. Derp de derp. Da teedily dumb. From the creators of _Der_, and \*Tum Ta Tittaly Tum Ta Too, \ ***Starving Artist** is… _The Winner_! (Rated PG-13.) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/439 "2014-12-08T23:12:57Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > **Starving Artist** derp dee derp. Derp dee derpity derpy derp. Until one day, the derpa derpa derpaderp. Derp de derp. Da teedily dumb. > > From the creators of _Der_, and \*Tum Ta Tittaly Tum Ta Too, \ ***Starving Artist** is… _The Winner_! (Rated PG-13.) I adore you. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/440 "2014-12-08T23:22:02Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > **Starving Artist** derp dee derp. Derp dee derpity derpy derp. Until one day, the derpa derpa derpaderp. Derp de derp. Da teedily dumb. > > From the creators of _Der_, and \*Tum Ta Tittaly Tum Ta Too, \ ***Starving Artist** is… _The Winner_! (Rated PG-13.) It should probably be rated R given all the anal rape, and tubes, and old old men with their things in the tube and . . . uh, I don’t even want to think about it any more. You guys can go without me, I’ll just make some popcorn at home and watch Netflix. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204.md?page=23)