# Starving Artist - we remember you

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 3, 2014, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204 "2014-12-03T04:53:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/441 "2014-12-08T23:23:39Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> **Starving Artist** derp dee derp. Derp dee derpity derpy derp. Until one day, the derpa derpa derpaderp. Derp de derp. Da teedily dumb.
> 
> From the creators of _Der_, and \*Tum Ta Tittaly Tum Ta Too, \ ***Starving Artist** is… _The Winner_! (Rated PG-13.)

_Ode to the low hanging fruit_?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/442 "2014-12-08T23:31:37Z")

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I hear that Jerry Sandusky had some low hanging fruit.  
What? Too soon?

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/443 "2014-12-08T23:40:19Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> …it means I’m WINNING!!

When I was a kid, and used to play class-organized flag football (where you had two flags attached by velcro to a belt, and “tackling” meant both flags were removed), I have a very specific memory of our quarterback, who wasn’t useless necessarily but somehow was always picked to be quarterback for no good reason I could ever see. Anyway, I remember one day him breaking free of the pack of boys who were clotted around the line of scrimmage. I remember him charging forty or fifty yards, gleefully shouting, and, brazenly triumphant over his apparent game-winning touchdown, strutting into the end zone.

Of course he was utterly oblivious over the whole distance that both flags were long gone.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/444 "2014-12-09T00:24:38Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> **Hentor** , unless you can show that **Starving Artist** posted what you claimed despite his assertion that he didn’t, your argument doesn’t have any validity.

I already did, right here in this thread. Please take the barest of effort to read before you say things like this.

> [@Heffalump and Roo](#):
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> It could have been that the status of African-Americans could have risen at the same rate or faster under a different policy. If it could have, your claims of immorality disappear.

Well, they sure would, wouldn’t they. And then I wouldn’t be fucking saying this. He explicitly and expressly called for a more incremental, step-by-step approach, explicitly saying that this would accomplish outcomes more slowly, and that the way things happened - the "co-mingling’ was premature and unnatural.

> [@](#):
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> One of the reasons I am unwilling to debate the underlying issue is because I’m beginning to realize that you’re distorting what was posted. The other reason is that I don’t have the background in the subject matter since the argument came from another thread.

I took pains to quote his material in this thread. I am offended by your charge of distortion. It’s deceitful and ugly, and speaks to your character.

As a reminder, here is the post from this thread:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17947707&postcount=105](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17947707&postcount=105)

I’ll even summarize here beyond the summary I provided there:

> [@Starving Artist](#):
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> However, I doubt very seriously if the blacks of that era and the women of that era would have chosen to have things end up the way they are now. I believe they would have preferred, as would I, to have things done in a more sensible, step-by-step manner that would have left the things that were good about that era intact.

> [@Starving Artist](#):
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> And to the degree conservatives had had a voice in creating positive change in racism, it would have been accomplished more slowly no doubt, but without the pain and misery and loss of life that many members of the black community have had to endure…

> [@Starving Artist](#):
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> What I’ve said is that by forcing the two disparate and widely differing cultures into a premature and unnatural co-mingling has created a lot of conflict that has actually set back the arrival of time when the color of a person’s skin is of no more importance than the color of their eyes or hair.

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**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/445 "2014-12-09T00:26:25Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> I’m sorry to have disappointed you.

You’ve disappointed me as well.

Do you have a point? Other than the one atop your head?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/446 "2014-12-09T00:36:58Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Another poster here confirmed from (highly unfortunate) personal experience that this was possible, and yet **S A** continues to handwave it away. More dishonesty on his part.

It was more than dishonesty – I’d call it downright sociopathic. If that’s what you call “winning”, I’d much rather lose.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And now I’m out for the rest of the night.
> 
> Chow! 😉
> 
> 1…2…

Hopefully to take a long walk on a short pier.

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**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/447 "2014-12-09T00:42:21Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> There are all-bad people walking the earth. Not many. But they are out there.
> 
> (I am not suggesting that **SA** is one, though I am also not suggesting that he is not. I am only speaking generally.)

Hate to be the one to give you the bad news…but no, there _are_ aplenty. Moreover they sort of Rule The Planet with no Aluminum Caps[sup]®[/sup]. Not a conspiracy but rather an observation: how many current leaders are working for the betterment of _their nations_?

As for **SA** , the more you speak about – or respond to – the better he feels. Thus suffice it to say I wish him no joy.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/448 "2014-12-09T00:59:33Z")

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> [@OwnRules](#):
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> You’ve disappointed me as well.
> 
> Do you have a point? Other than the one atop your head?

It is a challenge to meet everyone’s intellectual standards when suffering from carpenter’s syndrome, I will try harder next time.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/449 "2014-12-09T01:09:03Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> So you decided to post comments I made fairly early on in the thread before it became clear what Sandusky had been doing and in response to having been asked what besides rape it could possibly have been, and it is this you choose to use in your attempt to defend accusations that you’re distorting what I’ve said?
> 
> Yes, I said a lot of things in the earlier stages of that thread that I wouldn’t have said later on as more information became available.
> 
> You know it and I know it. You’re simply hoping that by taking things out of context and playing to a sympathetic audience you’ll get some sort of Brownie points. But you’re a dishonest piece of shit too, and posting misleading comments that I eventually came to change my mind on amounts once again to lies and distortion…and in my humble opinion, more – WINNING!! 🙂
> 
> And now I’m out for the day. Rag on.

Moron.

The quotes aren’t from the Paterno thread. You can’t find cites of your own, nor do you read anybody else’s. Idiot. And you have the chutzpah to call **me** a dishonest piece of shit? You are pathetic. Your ideas are execrable. Your opinions are addled foolishness. What comes out of your mouth/keyboard is of less value than the piles my dog deposits on the lawn. You are a buffoon and a laughing stock. Your “positions” are indefensible by anyone having the slightest contact with reality. You are a one trick stupid-pony whose single trick draws nothing more than pointing and laughter. I don’t bother to deride you very often because it is just too easy – like having a philosophical discussion with a two year old. Not a very precocious two year old either. And now, having provided cites that demonstrate that you are nothing but a craven asshole and a steaming pile of bucolic end product, I’ll watch you hand wave like a one armed paper hanger with the shingles. And I’ll laugh. Oh, and I’ll be in good company when I do so, being joined by every other person who reads this thread. Ha ha, dipshit; ha, ha.

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**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/450 "2014-12-09T01:13:57Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> It is a challenge to meet everyone’s intellectual standards when suffering from carpenter’s syndrome, I will try harder next time.

I m sorry for your condition and hope a woodpecker can make it all better. Trust they’ve cracked your skull years ago.

Gives hope.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/451 "2014-12-09T01:40:25Z")

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Who the hell is this guy?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/452 "2014-12-09T01:56:43Z")

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> [@OwnRules](#):
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> I m sorry for your condition and hope a woodpecker can make it all better. Trust they’ve cracked your skull years ago.
> 
> Gives hope.

For someone who has been here a day, and made 3 posts, you seem mighty familiar with things here. You remind me of someone who used to post here.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/453 "2014-12-09T01:58:10Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Who the hell is this guy?

I’m still trying to figure out how he knows I have carpenter’s syndrome.

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**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/454 "2014-12-09T02:20:36Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> For someone who has been here a day, and made 3 posts, you seem mighty familiar with things here. You remind me of someone who used to post here.

Sherlock?

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**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/455 "2014-12-09T02:23:05Z")

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Memory lacking as well? [It is a challenge to meet everyone’s intellectual standards when suffering from carpenter’s syndrome, I will try harder next time.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17960656#post17960656)

Get better.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/456 "2014-12-09T03:16:16Z")

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> [@OwnRules](#):
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> Memory lacking as well? [It is a challenge to meet everyone’s intellectual standards when suffering from carpenter’s syndrome, I will try harder next time.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17960656#post17960656)
> 
> Get better.

I don’t know whether to do _::face palm::_ or whoosh on that one.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/457 "2014-12-09T03:33:03Z")

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\*\* Heffalump and Roo \*\*!

Since the thread has flipped a page, and you have previously struggled to read posts occurring earlier in the thread, I’m linking you back to my reply:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17960564&postcount=444](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17960564&postcount=444)

I do not want you to miss it again. I await your reply.

Okay everybody. I’m going to put my smart phone down for a while. Just saying, so that you know I’ve left for a little bit, but I anticipate returning later. You youngsters and your tech!

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/458 "2014-12-09T04:34:20Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> \*\* Heffalump and Roo \*\*!
> 
> Since the thread has flipped a page, and you have previously struggled to read posts occurring earlier in the thread, I’m linking you back to my reply:
> 
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17960564&postcount=444](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17960564&postcount=444)
> 
> I do not want you to miss it again. I await your reply.
> 
> Okay everybody. I’m going to put my smart phone down for a while. Just saying, so that you know I’ve left for a little bit, but I anticipate returning later. You youngsters and your tech!

That’s amazing that you’re holding on to all of that over one sentence in a huge wall of text that’s stuck on page 17 in a health reform thread. You created a whole convoluted argument based on snippets from unrelated posts in unrelated threads where the arguments were not discussed in context.

But good on you. You got him to reconsider and change his mind. He now says that progress would not be slower under another policy. Is it back to moral now?

I’m beginning to see what both **grossbottom** and **Starving Artist** have been saying about you.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/459 "2014-12-09T05:40:25Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> That’s amazing that you’re holding on to all of that over one sentence in a huge wall of text that’s stuck on page 17 in a health reform thread. You created a whole convoluted argument based on snippets from unrelated posts in unrelated threads where the arguments were not discussed in context.
> 
> But good on you. You got him to reconsider and change his mind. He now says that progress would not be slower under another policy. Is it back to moral now?
> 
> I’m beginning to see what both **grossbottom** and **Starving Artist** have been saying about you.

Please go away. You’re not nearly as clever as you think you are.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2014, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/460 "2014-12-09T06:34:17Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Please go away. You’re not nearly as clever as you think you are.

An insult from a snacker. I must be stepping up in the world.

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