# Starving Artist - we remember you **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2014, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204 "2014-12-03T04:53:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/141 "2014-12-04T08:01:18Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It really isn’t a difficult or complex notion to understand and I’m admittedly at a loss to understand what’s so delusional about it. Be nice to me and I’ll be nice to you; act like an asshole to me and I’ll act like an asshole to you. > > It’s sort of like the Golden Rule writ large. 😉 Personally, I neither need nor want you to be nice to me. You’re beyond contempt. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/142 "2014-12-04T08:14:39Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I don’t own him. How could disowning him work? > > However, I did undertake an extended debate with him once. We ended by agreeing to disagree. I meant to address this earlier but it got lost in the shuffle. Yes, we did have an extended debate in regard to the Paterno thread. And it was a breath of fresh air in which we both spoke our mind, gave our respective points of view, challenged each other when we felt it necessary and eventually came to agree to disagree, as **Bricker** said. Throughout the entire discussion which went on intermittently for several weeks, there were no insults, or name-calling, or anger, frustration or resentment. We simply talked like two civilized adults. It was a different and very pleasant experience compared to the way things usually go around here, and struck me as being the way things would go on the rest of this board if only it were as smart as it likes to think it is. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/143 "2014-12-04T08:28:48Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It really isn’t a difficult or complex notion to understand and I’m admittedly at a loss to understand what’s so delusional about it. Be nice to me and I’ll be nice to you; act like an asshole to me and I’ll act like an asshole to you. > > It’s sort of like the Golden Rule writ large. 😉 just what do you think the Golden Rule says? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/144 "2014-12-04T08:32:35Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > …It was a different and very pleasant experience compared to the way things usually go around here, and struck me as being the way things would go on the rest of this board if only it were as smart as it likes to think it is. The Bulwer-Lytton Prize is within your grasp! English majors will gouge out their eyes and take up panhandling in sign language. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/145 "2014-12-04T10:02:14Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It’s a sign of victory when virtually every hysterical claim made about Joe Paterno is proven to be false and those who originally claimed otherwise are left holding an empty sack. Which is exactly what happened. If they chose to disengage with me (although some like **Bryan Ekers** held out till the very end simply for trolling purposes) it was because their allegations were proven to have no merit. The claims weren’t hysterical – they were just, mostly, that Joe could have done more, and had a responsibility to do more, to protect children. Not that he was a child molester, or approved of it – just that he didn’t do enough to stop it. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/146 "2014-12-04T11:53:43Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > But in each case, as soon as people determined I was saying things they disagreed with, out came the insults and accusations that I was a pedophile, a rapist, a rape enabler, etc., etc., etc. , People say things others disagree with around here all the time without managing to get the vitriol in return that you do. There’s something different about the disagreements you get into and the disagreements other liberals and conservatives (etc) get into here at the SDMB. That difference is, what you’re saying in these threads isn’t just something that people disagree with. What you’re saying, rather, is breathtakingly, almost frighteningly immoral. There is a natural reaction of disgust in reaction to such heinousness as you often post, as well as a desire to vigorously combat the evil you represent. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/147 "2014-12-04T12:10:34Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > just what do you think the Golden Rule says? His interpretation is more like the Goldbug Rule. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/148 "2014-12-04T12:27:51Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > But make no mistake about it, it’s your own assholism that is responsible for whatever argumentativeness and belligerence you see coming from me. Address me in a reasonable and considerate tone and the odds are overwhelming that I’ll respond to you in the very same way. But come on to me like an aggressive, belligerent asshole and you’ll get that in return too. You do realize you just pretty much confirmed what I said, right? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/149 "2014-12-04T13:30:44Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > just what do you think the Golden Rule says? As an expert in the study of sociomoral reasoning once said to me, “It’s the Golden Rule _backwards_.” \* By the way, most children grow out of this stage before adolescence. - For the Starving Artists among you, the Golden Rule says that you should do unto others **as you would have them** do unto you. Starving’s version is do unto others **just as they have** done unto you. This is reciprocity, and exemplifies the pragmatic exchanges of stage 2 moral development. It is what kids move into as they grow out of the entirely authority-driven morality of stage 1. But the fact that **Starving Artist** shows stunted moral development will come as a surprise to absolutely nobody. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/150 "2014-12-04T14:06:31Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Just popping in to call horseshit on this little bit of nonsense. > > The truth is I usually start out foolishly thinking I can join in on a discussion and offer my point of view along with everyone else’s You _do_ realize you _started_ the thread in question yourself, right? There was no “joining in” happening. It’s _OK_ if you don’t realize that, BTW, I understand how it must be… ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/151 "2014-12-04T14:24:34Z")
He’s a master troll. Look at all the shit he’s stirred up just in this thread. We are all the worse for falling for it, again and again and again. He’s nothing more than a construct. Stop feeding him, especially after midnight! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/152 "2014-12-04T14:25:49Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > He’s a master troll. Look at all the shit he’s stirred up just in this thread. We are all the worse for falling for it, again and again and again. He’s nothing more than a construct. Stop feeding him, especially after midnight! So, you’re saying he’s a master baiter? ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/153 "2014-12-04T14:27:18Z")
> [@El Kabong](#): > > So, you’re saying he’s a master baiter? 😃 One of the best there is! ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/154 "2014-12-04T14:59:29Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > That difference is, what you’re saying in these threads isn’t just something that people disagree with. What you’re saying, rather, is breathtakingly, almost frighteningly immoral. There is a natural reaction of disgust in reaction to such heinousness as you often post, as well as a desire to vigorously combat the evil you represent. This exactly. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/155 "2014-12-04T15:24:43Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > He’s a master troll. Look at all the shit he’s stirred up just in this thread. We are all the worse for falling for it, again and again and again. He’s nothing more than a construct. Stop feeding him, especially after midnight! Yup. He’s basically FXM with a slightly different political outlook, but they use the exact same tactics to keep people coming back for more. I’ve never understood why people continue to try and engage either of them at all. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/156 "2014-12-04T16:38:16Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Yup. He’s basically FXM with a slightly different political outlook, but they use the exact same tactics to keep people coming back for more. I’ve never understood why people continue to try and engage either of them at all. Frequent Decrier miles. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/157 "2014-12-04T16:39:00Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > …the Golden Rule says that you should do unto others **as you would have them** do unto you. Yeah, that’s the way I’ve always heard it, too. Was just wondering if there was some other version of it that I was unaware of. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/158 "2014-12-04T16:40:50Z")
That’s version 1.0. The updated 2.0 is “The guy who’s got the gold, make the rules.” ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/159 "2014-12-04T16:48:56Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > OK, so, if he was already back again, then no blame. Just so long as you didn’t invoke his presence by saying his name. Then we’d have to hunt you down. They say if you stand in front of a mirror and say his name three times, he’ll appear behind you wearing nothing but a Penn State crop top, wielding a paper towel tube. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204/160 "2014-12-04T17:01:00Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > The truth is I usually start out foolishly …and end up that way, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artist-we-remember-you/706204.md?page=9)