# Starving Artists thinks attempted rape is not "all that serious" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855 "2018-09-24T20:59:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/181 "2018-09-26T07:10:30Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Yeah, no. That’s not how dogs operate. They don’t “instinctively attack small children”. Obviously. No one would have domesticated dogs in the first place if they couldn’t help themselves from attacking children. And they don’t attack for no reason. There’s always a reason. It might be a stupid reason. But if a dog attacks, it’s because he has a reason. > > And animals - even primates - aren’t “savages” or, on the other hand, “civilized”. They’re just animals. They do animal things. It’s not right or wrong. It’s just what they are. > > Starving Artist is not an animal. He is garbage that walks like a man. He does garbage things. His mind forms garbage reasons which he expresses with garbage words that leak from his gaping void like a filthy diaper floating on a stream of vomit. He is pollution. He is taint. He is corruption. > > Of course he thinks attempted rape is acceptable. I mean, it’s just what he is. Same challenge, asshole! $100! Show where I said this or admit you’re a lying piece of shit! To whatever degree I may be garbage, I’m garbage on a significantly less malodorous level than you. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/182 "2018-09-26T07:17:12Z")
From the quote Big T used in the OP here - > [@Can Democrats actually stop the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-democrats-actually-stop-the-nomination-of-brett-kavanaugh/820733/3155): > > Perhaps the problem lies in the fact that I don’t think what she alleges to have happened to her is all that serious. During the days of my own youth such occurrences during drunken parties was fairly commonplace, and the reaction of the girls involved was usually that the guy was just a drunken asshole and then they forgot about it. We can all see you, Starving Artist. We can all see you saying that “what [Ford] alleges to have happened” was NBD. We can all read your garbage. We all know what you mean. We all know what that makes you. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/183 "2018-09-26T07:34:28Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Because it often is enlightening to figure out exactly where his nonsense goes off the rails and what made it crash in the first place. When you turn over the rocks in a **Starving Artist** post, to vary the metaphor a bit, you frequently find some interesting crawling survivals of primitive thought that have a powerful influence on a lot of popular ideology throughout our society. Of course what you _actually_ find is a sizable glurge consisting of snippets of a phrase I’ve posted here and a sentence that I’ve posted there there, pasted together with an endless number of these: “[…],” followed by **Kimstu’s** imaginings of what they really mean, consisting of nonsensical ideas and beliefs that have never so much as crossed my mind. > [@Kimstu](#): > > Sadly, there are a whole lot of other people in the right-wing media echo chamber being fed the same nonsensical talking points about “victim culture” and “witch hunts” and “liberal divisiveness” and “war on men”, etc., that **Starving Artist** so faithfully regurgitates here. Here you reveal not only your own ignorance but your proclivity to jump to wrongful conclusions. I neither watch nor listen to right-wing media. It’s apparently inconceivable to you that we conservatives have minds of our own, but the reality is that to whatever degree right-wing media may agree with me or other of its followers, it’s because they are espousing the same views their audience already has. The fact is, I’ve been of a conservative turn of mind all my life, even in my teens, and I’m perfectly capable of making my own observations and drawing my own conclusions without help from outside sources. > [@Kimstu](#): > > you, I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with just calling **Starving Artist** names in the Pit and leaving it at that, if that’s what someone feels like doing: that’s what the Pit is for, after all. I’m just saying that IMHO there are also some valid reasons to pay his illogical rantings the compliment of rational opposition, as Jane Austen put it. Impressed though I am at your apparent erudition, I’m afraid I must ask just which of my rantings it is that you find “illogical,” and for a demonstration of your “rational” opposition to them. So far all I’ve seen from you is the type of cut/paste/ **Kimstu** -imaginings posts I referred to above. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/184 "2018-09-26T07:44:52Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > From the quote Big T used in the OP here - > > We can all see you, Starving Artist. We can all see you saying that “what [Ford] alleges to have happened” was NBD. We can all read your garbage. We all know what you mean. We all know what that makes you. So NBD = acceptable? If a firecracker should go off in my hand, and I receive a blister as a result which I characterize as no big deal, does that mean I think it’s fine to hold firecrackers in your hand until they explode? So far you’re not even close to getting your $100. In fact, you should probably pay me $100 in penance for the fallacious stupidity you’ve employed to sully my good name. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/185 "2018-09-26T07:48:56Z")
> [@blob](#): > > So why is anyone engaging with him and “debating” with him and answering his nonsense? What’s the point? No right-minded individual thinks that rape is not serious and no healthy mind gives consideration to whom they would like to rape. He’s the only one who disagrees with that. Oh, so now I think rape is not serious? $100. Check. Prove. And is it your assertion that I’ve pointed out someone I’d like to rape? Same $100. Cough up where I said this. ---
**Author:** ![blob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blob/32/489_2.png) [@blob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blob)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/186 "2018-09-26T07:50:25Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Oh, so now I think rape is not serious? $100. Check. Prove. > > And is it your assertion that I’ve pointed out someone I’d like to rape? Same $100. Cough up where I said this. How about YOU go back over your previous posts and read what you have written? There’s an idea. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/187 "2018-09-26T07:51:15Z")
Why is it I’m finding myself thinking there are more than a few people here who the board might be better off without, yet I’m not one of them? I mean, regardless of my views and how well they sit with this nest of liars, at least I’m honest. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/188 "2018-09-26T07:54:32Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > he thinks attempted rape is acceptable. I mean, it’s just what he is. See, all you’re doing here is provoking the usual tortuous set of verbal gymnastics where our resident defender of sexual assault wails at the indignity of being accused of finding it acceptable, when all he said is “I don’t think what she alleges to have happened to her is all that serious”, that such behavour “was fairly commonplace”, and that it’s best for women if “they forgot about it.” This is a man who will attempt to fuck a paper tube to defend an enabler of child rape. Do you really believe he’s going to actually accept an accurate interpretation of his own words? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/189 "2018-09-26T08:40:17Z")
\*Sigh, so much dishonesty, so little time. > [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > , all you’re doing here is provoking the usual tortuous set of verbal gymnastics where our resident defender of sexual assault… Same challenge to you. I’ll mail you a check for $100 dollars if you can prove I’ve ever defended sexual assault (in some manner other than to point out that it wasn’t as serious in fact as was being alleged). > [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > is a man who will attempt to fuck a paper tube to defend an enabler of child rape. More idiocy. Doesn’t being stupid ever grow tiresome for you? First of all you still seem unable after all these years to grasp that the tubes were for the likes of you, not me. And of course you were never able to prove Paterno “enabled” Sandusky’s abuse. None of you were. Not ever and not at all. This is obvious from the fact that you still can’t let go of it some five or six years later. Do you really want me, and your ignoble defeat, living in your mind all the time like this? ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/190 "2018-09-26T10:05:19Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Why is it I’m finding myself thinking there are more than a few people here who the board might be better off without, yet I’m not one of them? > > I mean, regardless of my views and how well they sit with this nest of liars, at least I’m honest. No, you’re not. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/191 "2018-09-26T10:09:38Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > This is a man who will attempt to fuck a paper tube to defend an enabler of child rape. Do you really believe he’s going to actually accept an accurate interpretation of his own words? No. I don’t believe he will change. That’s what I meant when I said that being garbage is just who he is. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/192 "2018-09-26T10:15:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So NBD = acceptable? Yes. In as much as you describe sexual assault as being “commonplace” and “not that serious”, both synonyms for NBD. > [@](#): > > If a firecracker should go off in my hand, and I receive a blister as a result which I characterize as no big deal, does that mean I think it’s fine to hold firecrackers in your hand until they explode? Who cares? This is a thread about how you think sexual assault is acceptable, based on your description of it as being “commonplace” and “not that serious”. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/193 "2018-09-26T10:22:05Z")
You can tell what **Starving Artist** thinks about women based on how he treats the women on this message board. Every single one who takes part in these threads about sexual assault and rape tells SA, over and over again, that his rhetorical approach is very harmful to women, and he has never shown the slightest inclination to maybe consider that all these women could be correct and he could be wrong. Never. I’ve never seen a single self-reflecting post from SA, in which he might reevaluate his thoughts about an issue that he has no personal experience over based on the disagreement of women. ---
**Author:** ![blob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blob/32/489_2.png) [@blob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blob)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/194 "2018-09-26T10:22:41Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Same challenge to you. I’ll mail you a check for $100 dollars if you can prove Do you really think anybody would want you to know his or (particularly) her address? You must be kidding, mate. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/195 "2018-09-26T10:59:18Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Same challenge to you. I’ll mail you a check for $100 dollars if you can prove I’ve ever defended sexual assault (in some manner other than to point out that it wasn’t as serious in fact as was being alleged). You’re not defending it, you claim. You’re just downplaying it as being “commonplace” behaviour. You’re just mitigating it saying it’s not that serious. You’re just palliating it by saying girls should just forget about it. Sophistry is tedious at the best of times. When it’s attempted by an idiot such as yourself, it’s not just tedious, it’s sad. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/196 "2018-09-26T11:00:36Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > No. I don’t believe he will change. That’s what I meant when I said that being garbage is just who he is. True, but fortunately he’s quite old. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/197 "2018-09-26T11:09:43Z")
Nah. Barely seventy. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/198 "2018-09-26T11:20:58Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Never. I’ve never seen a single self-reflecting post from SA, in which he might reevaluate his thoughts about an issue that he has no personal experience over based on the disagreement of women. This ^ A complete lack of self-reflection; a total sense of self-righteousness. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/199 "2018-09-26T11:32:45Z")
But — gee, that old La Salle ran great! ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/200 "2018-09-26T12:01:24Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > You know, it’s possible for a man to talk to women about something without “mansplaining.” And it doesn’t sound like he was telling them how _they_ ought to feel, he was talking about how it does not surprise him if other people feel a certain way…\*\* Maybe, but not when the writer uses the incredibly condescending phrase “Ladies, you need to get your sisters to understand.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855.md?page=11)