# Starving Artists thinks attempted rape is not "all that serious"

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**Created:** [September 24, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855 "2018-09-24T20:59:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/41 "2018-09-25T01:45:23Z")

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So, how would you like it if someone tried to rape you? You ARE aware that it also happens to men, aren’t you?

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/42 "2018-09-25T01:46:49Z")

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Starving Artist is what happens when you place Frosty’s hat on a colonostomy bag.  
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/43 "2018-09-25T01:55:46Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The subject of this thread is how he does not think attempted rape is all that bad a thing.

Post 24.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/44 "2018-09-25T02:00:14Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Originally posted by **Starving Artist**  
> As it pertains to issues concerning women’s rights and feminism, women are always victims and men, villains. […]
> 
> But the whinging currently going on simply because some guy flirted with or approached a woman in a way she doesn’t like is going way too far (and is confused by the fact that the line of what’s acceptable is fluid and often depends on the attractiveness, wealth, or status of the guy involved), and is yet one more expression of the victimhood/villainization mentality that has overtaken society the last several decades and which has so much of the country at each other’s throat. […]
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> […] the claim that women had it so bad back then is largely a myth […] there’s no shortage of people eager to think of themselves as victims, so perpetuating the myth of has been pretty easy for the ideology of victimhood to pull off. […]
> 
> To me the low-grade hassles that women have to endure because of their attractiveness are the flip side to the benefits they derive from being attractive. There are pros and cons to everything, and in my opinion attractive women would be much happier if they were to focus on and be appreciative and thankful for the good things their looks bring them and be more philosophical and accepting of the fact that along with those blessings comes a certain degree of annoyance. […] IMO there’s far too much fault-finding and whinging going on these days […]
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> […] a bunch of people who’ve been brainwashed by man-hating feminist dogma while eagerly swallowing victim pills for, in most cases, all their lives […]
> 
> […] overly sensitive liberal women who’ve become convinced that men are their enemy. They appear to be seeking out, almost to the point of inventing them, reasons to interpret the slightest things we say as sexist, minimizing and dehumanizing. And based upon this hyper-sensitivity and exaggerated sense of victimhood, they insist that we change our natural behavior […]
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> […] Ford may have felt shame for having put herself in the position where such an attack could occur […]
> 
> Well you see, in those days people were both more realistic about life and they could cope with things. […] And believe it or not, girls at the time were pretty effective at stopping things should they feel things were getting out of hand. They weren’t the terrified shrinking violets that today’s victimhood ideology has created. […]
> 
> I’d be most happy if women were to DECIDE they’re not going to allow themselves to buy into the victimhood dogma constantly being promoted by the left and to put the wrongs others do to them in the past where it belongs and live a happy life instead.

Sorry, but I have to ask…don’t you ever get tired of typing “[…]”?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/45 "2018-09-25T02:04:51Z")

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I have to go now because as I said in the other thread before this one popped up, I got chit to do, and you’ve derailed me long enough. I’m afraid you’ll have to call yourselves congenitally dishonest idiots for the rest of the night.

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/46 "2018-09-25T02:08:26Z")

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For your consideration:

**Struggling Rapist**

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/47 "2018-09-25T02:11:10Z")

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Oh, and one more thing…Bill Clinton[COLOR=“Black”]![/COLOR]

You know. Much worse than Kavanaugh. Sober use of force. Rape to orgasm. Brutal, brusing kiss? Put some ice on that? Bimbo eruptions?

Remarks? Reasons for the left’s silence? Bueller? Anyone?

I’m still hearing crickets!

Or is all this pro-feminist outrage merely politics?

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/48 "2018-09-25T02:14:51Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I will mail you a check for $100 if you can prove I told you not to be upset at the abuse you experienced when you were 12.
> 
> I will mail you another check for $100 if you can prove I ever said I was entitled to decide for women what they should be upset by.
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> I’ll keep my headphones handy to block out the crickets.

I’m not going to tell you I hope you die in a manner that is long, slow, painful, and lonely, because that would be against board rules. I’m just going to point out that no one will miss you when you’re gone.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/49 "2018-09-25T02:19:08Z")

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Donald Trump!!1

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/7pdWAcK6Eh8/hqdefault.jpg "Anchorman Brick Tamland: I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT / LOUD NOISES") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdWAcK6Eh8)

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/50 "2018-09-25T02:22:08Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Or is all this pro-feminist outrage merely politics?

Take your hundred bucks, roll it up into a cylinder, and shove it up your proud little rapey dickhole you fucking pervert.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/51 "2018-09-25T02:24:29Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> I’m not going to tell you I hope you die in a manner that is long, slow, painful, and lonely, because that would be against board rules. I’m just going to point out that no one will miss you when you’re gone.

I shall note that the board’s most mindless, overwrought, hysterical dingaling has advised that I’ll not be missed when gone.

Now, what do you think about [COLOR=“Red”]Bill Clinton[/COLOR]?

Why no outrage there?

Politics, perhaps?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/52 "2018-09-25T02:24:38Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Hey, you know what’s really good? Burritos!

[Not always](https://medium.com/@luckyshirt/dear-guy-who-just-made-my-burrito-fd08c0babb57). We had burritos for dinner, so I was just telling my kids about the best burrito review (okay, only burrito review) I’d ever read, and now I get to reread it. WINNER

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/53 "2018-09-25T02:26:17Z")

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Bill Clinton is not in this thread. He was wrong and paid a price. You are just trying to make yourself feel better by deflecting. It ain’t gonna work. You’re a stupid asshole. Constipated in your thinking.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/54 "2018-09-25T02:27:17Z")

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That won’t work here, you guys. These people are too het up.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/55 "2018-09-25T02:33:08Z")

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What the hell does that mean?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/56 "2018-09-25T02:37:54Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Bill Clinton is not in this thread. He was wrong and paid a price. You are just trying to make yourself feel better by deflecting. It ain’t gonna work. You’re a stupid asshole. Constipated in your thinking.

Just a couple more things and then I really do have to go:

[ul]Bill Clinton has paid no price for what he did to Juanita Broaddrick.

Further, he has never come close to getting the criticism and outrage that Brett Kavanaugh has come in for as a result of Kavanaugh’s drunken behavior while still a juvenile. Nope, not never! Not here on this board, not from NOW, not from lefties nowhere!

So I reiterate, the outrage is little but political puffery.  
[/ul]

[ul]Not deflecting, comparing!  
[/ul]

[ul]  
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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/57 "2018-09-25T02:43:17Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> What the hell does that mean?

It would be nice if he were around to explain it, but he’s really busy right now.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/58 "2018-09-25T02:43:18Z")

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Were you asleep during the 90s.  
Quit deflecting, a wrong committed by one person does not give another person the right to commit a wrong. Why do think it does?

P.S. Clinton isn’t trying to get on the Supreme court.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/59 "2018-09-25T02:44:06Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> We have laws on the books for the very purpose of discouraging and punishing wrongful behavior.
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> Let the law take its course in the event of attempted rape or actual rape just like it does when you get robbed or stabbed or beaten. And then just like you do if you get robbed or stabbed or beaten, you let the law take its course and get on with your life […]

An important difference, though, is that if someone you considered your friend or a trusted authority figure tries to rob or stab or beat you, your other friends don’t sit around laughing about it or hold you down to facilitate your being robbed or stabbed or beaten. The cops don’t ask you what you were wearing that might have suggested to your assailant that you wanted to be robbed or stabbed or beaten. You don’t get told that it’s natural for some people in your normal, law-abiding social circle to want to rob or stab or beat you, and it’s up to you not to provoke their hormonal inclinations in that direction.

If a particular group of young people is “known to become” robbingly or stabbingly or beatingly “aggressive when drinking”, they go to jail or to juvie. They don’t get invited to parties of law-abiding people where it’s considered to be the responsibility of their potential victims to avoid them. Photos of their victims being robbed or stabbed or beaten don’t get passed around and sniggered over among dozens of their classmates or millions of internet viewers. Your being robbed or stabbed or beaten isn’t considered to bring shame on your family that you are held responsible for.  
In short, this is why we have a problem in our society with rape culture but not with “robbing culture” or “stabbing culture” or “beating culture”. If we really want victims of rape and sexual assault to be able to “let the law take its course and get on with their lives”, then we need to fix the pathological assumptions that rape and sexual assault are “not really all that serious”, or “just the way life is”, or something that their victims are responsible for “shutting down”.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starving-artists-thinks-attempted-rape-is-not-all-that-serious/821855/60 "2018-09-25T02:47:50Z")

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Struggling Rapist: “Oh, and one more thing…”

Struggling Rapist: “Now, what do you think about”

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