# StarWars fanwank question

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 6, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215 "2008-04-06T20:32:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/101 "2008-04-11T19:56:55Z")

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Is Death Star 2 larger than Death Star Classic? There isn’t anything to give much of a sense of scale except the super star destroyer going in at the end of ROTJ. The crawl tells us it’s more powerful, but says nothing about size. How (or why) would it be more powerful anyway? The original can puree a planet, what else do you need-an ‘atomize’ setting? Maybe it has better engines or armor. I certainly hope they fixed that exhaust port problem. More speed or protection would of course a require more powerful reactor which would need more internal space. Can anyone provide a canonical answer, without resorting to that namby-pamby Expanded Universe stuff? We’re stict Star Wars constuctionists in this house, mister. And keep your damn banthas off my lawn, I just fixed the vaporator! Stupid kids and their Rebel Alliance…

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/102 "2008-04-11T20:33:19Z")

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[QUOTE=muldoonthief]  
True, but when Darth Vader takes Luke’s hand in TESB, there’s no blood at all, and the stump is burned black.  
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'Zactly. Hence my comment about the **plot** oanium crystal.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/103 "2008-04-11T20:41:40Z")

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[QUOTE=mlees]  
5. Emporer arrives Mustafar, retrieves his apprentice.  
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Performed an apprendectomy, you might say.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/104 "2008-04-11T20:43:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Furious\_Marmot]  
Is Death Star 2 larger than Death Star Classic? There isn’t anything to give much of a sense of scale except the super star destroyer going in at the end of ROTJ. The crawl tells us it’s more powerful, but says nothing about size. How (or why) would it be more powerful anyway? The original can puree a planet, what else do you need-an ‘atomize’ setting? Maybe it has better engines or armor. I certainly hope they fixed that exhaust port problem. More speed or protection would of course a require more powerful reactor which would need more internal space. Can anyone provide a canonical answer, without resorting to that namby-pamby Expanded Universe stuff? We’re stict Star Wars constuctionists in this house, mister. And keep your damn banthas off my lawn, I just fixed the vaporator! Stupid kids and their Rebel Alliance…  
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Ability to target capital ships on the move, with a respectable rate of fire.

When a few of the Mon Cal cruisers got hit is when they said they wanted to withdraw.

[Admiral Ackbar]IT’S A TRAP![/AA]

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/105 "2008-04-11T20:46:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Darth Sensitive]  
[Admiral Ackbar]IT’S A TRAP![/AA]  
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I just realized, reading that, that Dr. Zoidberg from Futurama has ruined my mind’s ear for Admiral Ackbar…

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/106 "2008-04-11T21:07:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Furious\_Marmot]  
Is Death Star 2 larger than Death Star Classic?  
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I remember in some EU thing it was supposed to be “twice as big”. Of course, if they mean twice the diameter it’s even super mega huger. However, if it’s twice the volume the diameter would have increased by very little…

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/107 "2008-04-11T21:36:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Darth Sensitive]  
Ability to target capital ships on the move, with a respectable rate of fire.

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Isn’t that a bit like saying the new anti-tank cannon is more powerful than the old one because it has a semiautomatic croquet mallet? I see your point though, assuming that capital ships were in fact a threat to the Death Star to begin with. Do they ever show anybody actually shooting at it? They were probably too busy trying to keep stricken snub fighters from crashing into the preposterously underprotected bridge.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2008, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/108 "2008-04-11T23:30:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
I remember in some EU thing it was supposed to be “twice as big”. Of course, if they mean twice the diameter it’s even super mega huger. However, if it’s twice the volume the diameter would have increased by very little…  
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Also, I think one of them hangs a little lower.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/109 "2008-04-12T02:29:15Z")

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Well, space _is_ cold…

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/110 "2008-04-12T02:32:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
…and then late fifties to early sixties in _A New Hope_–.  
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You misspelled “Star Wars.”

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/111 "2008-04-14T11:57:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Well, space _is_ cold…  
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and no one can hear you scream.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/112 "2008-04-14T12:33:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Furious\_Marmot]  
Isn’t that a bit like saying the new anti-tank cannon is more powerful than the old one because it has a semiautomatic croquet mallet? I see your point though, assuming that capital ships were in fact a threat to the Death Star to begin with. Do they ever show anybody actually shooting at it? They were probably too busy trying to keep stricken snub fighters from crashing into the preposterously underprotected bridge.  
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I’d assume they were a threat when it was under construction, what with the shield and armor not protecting huge swathes of area.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/113 "2008-04-14T12:55:25Z")

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[QUOTE=BMalion]  
and no one can hear you scream.  
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Well, shit, that just shows you’ve never seen ME really terrified.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/starwars-fanwank-question/444215/114 "2008-04-15T01:09:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Darth Sensitive]  
I’d assume they were a threat when it was under construction, what with the shield and armor not protecting huge swathes of area.  
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That’s what the shield generators on Endor were for…before their renovation into the first part of an environmental disaster the likes of which no small arboreal moon could recover.

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