I agree it’s security theater. Funny California isn’t on that list since they are handing out licenses to undocumented/illegal immigrants. Not to mention the Syrian “refugees” that were brought in to the country unvetted, or at least with dubious credentials, as ISIS/err Al_Quadea controls passport printing presses there.
IMHO we need a national ID. to drive, to fly if need be, the census, for medical care, police run-ins, and to vote.
Do it with a nice fancy bio-metric thumbprint and call it done. Verify the entire country. You need an " ID to do the most basic things in life, used to be you could just ride your horse down the road, and pay the Dr. with some crops, or shoe his horse. times have changed.
Due to FDR and SSI everyone gets numbered anyway.
Yep. That was a post-9/11 change, that you had to have your pilot’s license AND a government-issued picture ID. Which, since most of us drove to the airport anyway, wasn’t a huge problem (I did conceded that I could bring myself to bring my driver’s license along when I bicycled to the local airport),
Wisconsin is in compliance however they will issue a drivers license that will not allow you to fly commercially. How do I know this…I have one not by choice but necessity. Otherwise I wouldn’t have gotten my license.
I was born in Wisconsin, married my first husband here, and even divorced that said husband here in the same county I live in now.
However, when I returned I had married my current husband and because I had not reverted to my maiden name I not only have to bring my birth certificate which I had, my first and second marriage license and the divorce decree of my first marriage. There is a little symbol that isn’t on my license and thus I may have problems flying or obtaining a passport because I never had one.
The only place in the world I have ever been randomly asked to show ID was in a train station in Japan, and I suspect that was mainly so the very young police officer could practice his English skills
Not getting stopped is not the same as not having a stop and identify statute. Many countries have them, and in Portugal you must have an ID on you at all times. Guess that wasn’t one of your 90 countries.
I’ve told this before. First for Mrs. FtG and then later me.
To get new drivers licenses the last time required getting our birth certificates. To get your birth certificate, the state needed proof of ID. In our case, photocopies of our old drivers licenses.
The state accepted those birth certificates and gave us new licenses.
Obviously that extra step really made all the difference in the world.
But THAT “sanctuary” license will not be accepted for air travel or access to fedearally restricted facilities. It will have on it some sort of flag or lack thereof that singifies it’s not a REAL-ID compliant license (the one that required your proof of citizenship, birth cert, Social Security, green card, utility bills, W2, shoe size, vaccine record, jump to left and step to right, oath from witness, question about the 1995 World Series, offering of animal sacrifice…).
Nothing in the law forbids issuing a license that just states the person with that face was observed passing the driving test but makes no guarantees otherwise. Just that then the Feds will not accept it as ID.
It’s rare, but it’s happened to me in Budapest (once in the actual street, late at night, the other two or three times while at the bar drinking when the cops made their rounds) and once in Uzbekistan. I always carried my passport with me, so there was no issue.
I have just verified that one cannot fly using Georgia driver’s licenses. I taped one to each hand and flapped away. Got nowhere. Could it be because one was expired? Maybe I’ll try using only the valid one and twirling it over my head helicopter style…
We’re one of the few countries that does NOT have a national ID card. I found this out recently when doing something that required me to present either an NIC or a passport; my driver’s license absolutely did NOT qualify, nor did my then-expired passport. I had to expedite my passport renewal. It’s interesting to see the list of countries where not just having it, but carrying it, is mandatory.
As others have said, a passport card is absolutely valid ID for flying. It’s annoying that right now, you could in theory need to get this card for flying purposes when otherwise you have no need for it. Hell, it’s not even good for flying into Canada.
We went ahead and got the cards when we renewed our passports last year, just because the extra cost was fairly nominal, but I don’t see us using them much. We may be driving to/from Canada several times in the next couple years but the regular passport would work just as well. In the meantime, if we need ID for domestic flights we have the card, at least.