# State judge orders Pres. Obama to appear 1/26 in person w/ birth cert. to be on Georgia ballot? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 22, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275 "2012-01-22T03:33:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/21 "2012-01-22T15:32:05Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Why does it continue? In part because Obama wants/wanted it to rather than just provide everything from the minute Hillary first mentioned it. Can you provide a cite for Hillary mentioning it at all, let alone first? Also, enlighten us as to why Obama would possibly want this nonsense to continue. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/22 "2012-01-22T15:47:17Z")
The South should be allowed to secede. Forced to, even. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/23 "2012-01-22T15:47:40Z")
Oily Taint? What the hell is that?!? ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/24 "2012-01-22T15:53:47Z")
Sounds like something you’d see on a dirty rag. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/25 "2012-01-22T16:17:37Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > Egads. > > As a Georgian, I am embarrassed at this. > How can this have gone on so long? > If McCain had be elected would some weirdos be pursuing him with legal challenges about how he was born in the Canal Zone? Eh, I don’t think this really reflects on Georgia. Taitz seems to be driving these lawsuits (she’s filed in several other States), and she’s from the USSR originally and a resident of CA now. As others have said, the judges actions in Georgia a) seem to be due to Obama needing a better lawyer in the states and b) won’t go anywhere anyways. You can be embarrassed for giving the country Newt Gingrich though. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/26 "2012-01-22T16:25:07Z")
So do we know whose funding this? So far as I can tell, she’s been filing nuisances suits against the Prez like this since 2008, and racked up several tens of thousands of dollars in fines for doing the same. It seems unlikely she’s doing it all out of pocket. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/27 "2012-01-22T16:35:11Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > I missed read that as 1/26th of Obama to appear in person. You think some toenail clippings would be enough? ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/28 "2012-01-22T19:21:11Z")
And here I thought Republicans couldn’t do anything dumber than nominating Newt Gingrich. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/29 "2012-01-22T20:44:45Z")
Moving from IMHO to Elections. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/30 "2012-01-22T21:13:03Z")
> [@](#): > > Why does it continue? In part because Obama wants/wanted it to rather than just provide everything from the minute Hillary first mentioned it. He didn’t provide it all, because there were too many people asking to give it to all of them, and given that they’re all crazy, one of them would probably have ripped it all up. He did do the next best thing, though, by putting his birth certificate on his website immediately. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/31 "2012-01-22T21:19:55Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > He didn’t provide it all, because there were too many people asking to give it to all of them, and given that they’re all crazy, one of them would probably have ripped it all up. He did do the next best thing, though, by putting his birth certificate on his website immediately. Heh. You just know they would have, too. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/32 "2012-01-22T22:33:05Z")
How does this attorney still have a law license? Filing frivolous complaints is a violation of legal ethics. Also, has any court ruled conclusively that Obama is a natural born citizen? If so, then res judicata should apply and every one of these suits should be dismissed with harsh penalties for anyone filing them. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/33 "2012-01-22T23:12:24Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > If all of Obama’s papers are in order, I think Mr. Taitz should have to pay for Obama’s travel expense. **Ms.** Taitz, actually. [![](https://i.huffpost.com/gen/96718/thumbs/s-ORLY-large.jpg) ](https://i.huffpost.com/gen/96718/thumbs/s-ORLY-large.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/34 "2012-01-22T23:17:30Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > I missed read that as 1/26th of Obama to appear in person. He could send his right hand,with the middle finger extended. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/35 "2012-01-22T23:22:07Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > He didn’t provide it all, because there were too many people asking to give it to all of them, and given that they’re all crazy, one of them would probably have ripped it all up. He did do the next best thing, though, by putting his birth certificate on his website immediately. I’m fairly sure that Taitz’s eventual plan is to be allowed to examine Obama’s birth certificate in person, then quickly stuff it in her mouth and eat it. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/36 "2012-01-23T00:47:45Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Oily Taint? What the hell is that?!? > [@elbows](#): > > Sounds like something you’d see on a dirty rag. Something left on bed sheets after unspecified sexual acts? ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/37 "2012-01-23T01:06:39Z")
What amazes me is that she (the lawyer) is a naturalized citizen. I would not expect this demand to come from someone who is foriegn-born. BTW, Orly isn’t that unusual a name, depending on where you are from, of course. It’s origin is Hebrew. But it is also a nickname for Oreland, a Nordic name. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/38 "2012-01-23T01:07:48Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > Also, has any court ruled conclusively that Obama is a natural born citizen? If so, then res judicata should apply and every one of these suits should be dismissed with harsh penalties for anyone filing them. Not precisely the question you asked, but I’m fairly sure that the Conference of the Supreme Court determined that O.T.;s cert. petitions were “frivolouis” (in the legal sense), and hence would not be heard. I cannot locate the cite at present, but it sticks with me that this happened because Clarence Thomas was unfairly criticized for his role in it. One justice – IIRC Ginsberg, but I’m not certain of this – received a petition to grant cert. from Orly & Co., accompanied with a request for a preliminary injunction barring further lower court action (which would be a ruling against her) until SCOTUS granted cert. This was denied. So she proceeded to send the same paperwork to Thomas. Following an interior rule of SCOTUS when a cert. petitioner is “justice shopping” – trying to get one of the nine to act in the way he/she wants – he properly brought the matter up in conference, which decided to deem such suits frivolous and unwarranted. The effect of this is to bar Orly and her proteges from bringing the case to SCOTUS again. Now in my personal opinion that would constitute precedent which other courts should follow when faced with Birther cases. But I admit I don’t know procedure here well enough to say that as a legal assertion. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/39 "2012-01-23T01:11:32Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > Egads. > > As a Georgian, I am embarrassed at this. > How can this have gone on so long? > If McCain had be elected would some weirdos be pursuing him with legal challenges about how he was born in the Canal Zone? Possibly. It’s a big country after all. The difference is that Democrats would agree that those nutters were indeed nuts. There would be no need for McCain to release his long form birth certificate. The Dems marginalized their crazies during the 1970s and 1980s. Republicans did the opposite: they branded their moderates as RINOs and ran them out of office. ETA: If it makes you feel any better Orly Taitz hails from southern California. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275/40 "2012-01-23T01:30:52Z")
And is from Moldova, so the other Georgia can feel okay as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-judge-orders-pres-obama-to-appear-1-26-in-person-w-birth-cert-to-be-on-georgia-ballot/610275.md?page=3)