# State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman Trial Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 20, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501 "2013-06-20T20:32:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2041 "2013-07-14T02:40:33Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> 6 jurors in Florida seem to disagree with you.

That people can and do see things differently? I doubt it.

As for this specifically, I’ve always agreed he would get off.

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**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2042 "2013-07-14T02:41:32Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think other wannabe armed vigilantes may take this as license to follow “suspicious” young men in hoodies. I hope not, but I think there’s actually lots of young (and not-so-young) men who really want to shoot a “bad guy”.

Even if that were true, there are few places that the law is as lenient as it is in Florida regarding self defense. Most parts of the country shooting a “bad guy” the way Zimmerman did will get you locked up.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2043 "2013-07-14T02:43:49Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Zimmerman’s life has been changed forever. He’ll be in fear of his life for many years to come. I’m not sure he can ever overcome that fear and actually walk down the sidewalks normally again.

That would be awful. Imagine how it must feel to try to just innocently walk down the street, never sure if that odd-acting person in that slow moving car creeping along behind you is going to attack you for no reason.

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**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2044 "2013-07-14T02:44:29Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> That people can and do see things differently? I doubt it.
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> As for this specifically, I’ve always agreed he would get off.

Played like the best politicians. Argue your position passionately and point to its obviousness, but concede the likeliness of defeat.

Nobody can say you were wrong. 😉

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2045 "2013-07-14T02:44:38Z")

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Has there been a highly publicized crime against a black person that didn’t result in an acquittal in the past 50 years?

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2046 "2013-07-14T02:47:33Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think other wannabe armed vigilantes may take this as license to follow “suspicious” young men in hoodies. I hope not, but I think there’s actually lots of young (and not-so-young) men who really want to shoot a “bad guy”.

It’s the big break they have all been waiting for.

Harry Callahan: I know what you’re thinking. “Did he have Skittles or were they Sweet Tarts?” Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

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**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2047 "2013-07-14T02:47:51Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Has there been a highly publicized crime against a black person that didn’t result in an acquittal in the past 50 years?

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder\_of\_James\_Byrd,\_Jr.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.)

And every one of those racist fucks deserved to die, IMHO.

> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> It’s the big break they have all been waiting for.
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> Harry Callahan: I know what you’re thinking. “Did he have Skittles or were they Sweet Tarts?” Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

The .44 mag isn’t the most powerful handgun in the world anymore. But hey, cool story bro.

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**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2048 "2013-07-14T02:48:36Z")

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> [@Mr-Pookie](#):
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> Moral of the story is to make sure you beat the creepy ass cracker to death. Then you get to claim self defense and walk away free as a bird.

Somehow I don’t think the outcome of that trial would be the same.

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**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2049 "2013-07-14T02:52:48Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> No, if the system worked as it is supposed to Zimmerman wouldn’t have been charged. The legal system shouldn’t be beholden to mob rule.

Maybe; it should have gone to a grand jury, sure, but I’d wager pretty heavily he’d have been indicted by said grand jury. Bypassing it as Corey did certainly adds to the appearance of political meddling. How much that appearance was reality will probably come out in the months ahead.

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**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2050 "2013-07-14T02:53:55Z")

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> [@Hbns](#):
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> And now all those who so passionately wanted him convicted despite Florida law, can/should turn their attention to improving those laws that they feel resulted in a travesty of justice for Trayvon.
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> I’m not going to hold my breath though.

Absolutely, if they feel the law is the problem, work on changing the law. That’s how democracy is supposed to work.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2051 "2013-07-14T02:55:27Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> If you stack inference on inference **at all** , it’s invalid.

Sigh…:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2052 "2013-07-14T03:01:04Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Has there been a highly publicized crime against a black person that didn’t result in an acquittal in the past 50 years?

That’s actually a much more pointed criticism [of the media](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome) than the justice system. Crimes with black victims often don’t become highly publicized in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2053 "2013-07-14T03:01:12Z")

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The nightmare is over. Hope that both Corey and de la Rionda lose their jobs and get sued.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2054 "2013-07-14T03:05:58Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> The nightmare is over.

Not for Trayvon Martin or his parents.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2055 "2013-07-14T03:08:22Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’ve heard that people acquitted on self defense have immunity in Florida against wrongful death civil suits? Any confirmation on that?

Nope. He is absolutely not immune, at present, to any civil suit.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2056 "2013-07-14T03:11:32Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Not for Trayvon Martin or his parents.

Trayvon’s nightmare ended a long time ago, bud.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2057 "2013-07-14T03:14:46Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Has there been a highly publicized crime against a black person that didn’t result in an acquittal in the past 50 years?

Rodney King, the second trial.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2058 "2013-07-14T03:16:14Z")

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Martin Family attorney: Trayvon Martin stands with Medgar Evars and Emmett Till as examples of blah, blah, blah.

Give me a fucking break.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2059 "2013-07-14T03:21:11Z")

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Justice denied. The only consolation is that the scumbucket Zimmerman had to spend money on his defense and spent some time in jail.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2060 "2013-07-14T03:22:41Z")

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I happen to think justice was served (but I’m not gonna let anyone in real life know that). Case was a sham, and the state did a very poor job of presenting a coherent line of reasoning.

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