# State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman Trial Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 20, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501 "2013-06-20T20:32:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 104
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2061 "2013-07-14T03:35:08Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Rodney King, the second trial. There was a second trial? ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2062 "2013-07-14T03:41:49Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > There was a second trial? [There was a retrial, with two of the officers being found guilty](http://www.nytimes.com/1993/04/19/us/verdict-in-los-angeles-fear-subsides-with-verdict-but-residents-remain-wary.html). ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2063 "2013-07-14T03:51:14Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Justice denied. The only consolation is that the scumbucket Zimmerman had to spend money on his defense and spent some time in jail. Now would be a good time to start campaigning for a change to the relevant Florida Statutes. ---
**Author:** ![obbn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d6d6ee/32.png) [@obbn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obbn)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2064 "2013-07-14T03:53:38Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Justice denied. The only consolation is that the scumbucket Zimmerman had to spend money on his defense and spent some time in jail. Yep, ignore the findings of the jury. He was found innocent, but lets try to destroy his life because we don’t like the verdict. It never fails, there is no hate like liberal Hate. ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2065 "2013-07-14T03:53:40Z")
> [@Hbns](#): > > Now would be a good time to start campaigning for a change to the relevant Florida Statutes. And we wish you luck! ---
**Author:** ![hmarvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/858c86/32.png) [@hmarvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hmarvin)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2066 "2013-07-14T03:55:01Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > Martin Family attorney: Trayvon Martin stands with Medgar Evars and Emmett Till as examples of blah, blah, blah. > > Give me a fucking break. Instead of getting help for her troubled son, Sabrina kicked him out of the house, and the father wasn’t much better. Trayvon’s blood is on their hands. George Zimmerman just pulled the trigger. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2067 "2013-07-14T03:58:45Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Justice denied. The only consolation is that the scumbucket Zimmerman had to spend money on his defense and spent some time in jail. If you have followed the case objectively and considered the availiable evidence there was really only one conclusion you could draw. Unfortunately, you came to the wrong one. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2068 "2013-07-14T03:59:56Z")
> [@obbn](#): > > It never fails, there is no hate like liberal Hate. :rolleyes: The Right is a seething mass of bigotry and hatred. And members of the Right threaten to murder people on a regular basis, and occasionally do so. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2069 "2013-07-14T04:04:20Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > If you have followed the case objectively and considered the availiable evidence there was really only one conclusion you could draw. Unfortunately, you came to the wrong one. If anyone could have claimed self defense, it was Martin, not the guy with the gun who was literally recorded pursuing an unarmed man for no reason. ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2070 "2013-07-14T04:04:25Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > :rolleyes: The Right is a seething mass of bigotry and hatred. And members of the Right threaten to murder people on a regular basis, and occasionally do so. Between this and **BobLibDem** , I can’t waaaaait to cross the aisle. > [@Mosier](#): > > If anyone could have claimed self defense, it was Martin, not the guy with the gun who was literally recorded pursuing an unarmed man for no reason. No, no, no! An unarmed CHILD. And the khakis. Won’t please someone consider the khakis! ---
**Author:** ![obbn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d6d6ee/32.png) [@obbn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obbn)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2071 "2013-07-14T04:08:26Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > :rolleyes: The Right is a seething mass of bigotry and hatred. And members of the Right threaten to murder people on a regular basis, and occasionally do so. Yawn… :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2072 "2013-07-14T04:10:37Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > If anyone could have claimed self defense, it was Martin, not the guy with the gun who was literally recorded pursuing an unarmed man for no reason. That’s not what the evidence in the case showed, though. That’s your attempt to presentation very slanted view of the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2073 "2013-07-14T04:10:51Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > I happen to think justice was served (but I’m not gonna let anyone in real life know that). Why not? ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2074 "2013-07-14T04:14:25Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > And members of the Right threaten to murder people on a regular basis, and occasionally do so. Is there a political, racial, ethnic, socio-economic, religious, or sexual group of which that is _not_ true? ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2075 "2013-07-14T04:15:31Z")
> [@BlakeTyner](#): > > And we wish you luck! I think you’ve mistaken me for someone who feels a travesty of justice just occurred. I’m not all that found of rescinding DTR clauses. But thankfully since the states do have some rights left, where I live it is still the law of the land. Surprisingly I have not yet seen a single report of CCW holder murdered while retreating. :-/ ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2076 "2013-07-14T04:17:34Z")
Now some clean-up needs to be done. The State’s Attorney Office fired Ben Kruidbos. He was the IT guy responsible for pulling photos from Martin’s phone. He did so, and turned over more than 4,000 items from the phone to his bosses. He was alarmed when he later learned that they had turned over only 2,900 items to the defense. He feared that if the defense discovered the fact that photos were held back, he would become the scapegoat, with prosecutors claiming that he was the one who failed to provide photos. So he retained his own lawyer, and on that lawyer’s advice approached first his bosses, and then the judge, to reveal the existence of the photos. Judge Nelson ultimately ordered the state to provide those photos to the defense. For this act he was placed on leave, and the moment the case went to the jury, he was fired. His lawyer intends to sue, claiming the protections of the state’s expansive whistleblower act. Perhaps someone wants to argue the state’s side? ---
**Author:** ![BlakeTyner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@BlakeTyner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlakeTyner)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2077 "2013-07-14T04:22:28Z")
> [@Hbns](#): > > I think you’ve mistaken me for someone who feels a travesty of justice just occurred. > > I’m not all that found of rescinding DTR clauses. But thankfully since the states do have some rights left, where I live it is still the law of the land. > > Surprisingly I have not yet seen a single report of CCW holder murdered while retreating. :-/ No, no, no…I was agreeing with your post and wishing **BobLibDem** luck. ---
**Author:** ![Doggo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/87869e/32.png) [@Doggo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doggo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2078 "2013-07-14T04:29:46Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I asked this before and wasn’t answered. Maybe no one knows. Would that keep him from being sued in Federal Court too? Because I see no problem with reaching the burden of proof for a wrongful death lawsuit. The defence lawyer said that they would be applying for immunity from a civil suit, so it can’t be automatic. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2079 "2013-07-14T04:30:33Z")
> [@Doggo](#): > > The defence lawyer said that they would be applying for immunity from a civil suit, so it can’t be automatic. George Zimmerman is entitled to have an SYG hearing. ---
**Author:** ![Anduril](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Anduril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduril)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501/2080 "2013-07-14T04:33:13Z")
It was a travesty that George Zimmerman was even charged with a crime with what little evidence the prosecution had. George Zimmerman had the right to use deadly force and sad as it is, Trayvon Martin’s actions lead to his own death. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501.md?page=103) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-trial-thread/661501.md?page=105)