# State of the Sequels

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**Created:** [January 29, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556 "2009-01-29T15:16:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/1 "2009-01-29T15:16:32Z")

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Does anyone here know the status of the sequels for Narnia, The Golden Compass, and Twilight? I’m not personally invested in these series - actually didn’t like em - but have friends and students who are curious. Are they being made? Should they be?  
( and What’s up with the Harry Potter and James Bond series, and the Hobbit for that matter.) I know I could troll the internet for answers, but I’m interested in opinions, snark and humor on the subject too.

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/2 "2009-01-29T16:01:08Z")

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[en.wikipedia.org](http://en.wikipedia.org) and [us.imdb.com](http://us.imdb.com) are your friends.

I don’t care for any of those series either. Remember that Harry Potter 6 was ALREADY supposed to be released, but Warner realized they made enough money last year on Batman and decided to hold onto it so it’d help their 2009 budget. Totally lame.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/3 "2009-01-29T16:09:33Z")

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Disney dumped Narnia after disappointing box office & DVD sales for Caspian, leaving Walden to look for another company to do the rest with. Walden not doing too well after City of Ember, tho I’d think Journey to the Center of the Earth would have made up for it. Is Inkheart a Walden production?

Harry Potter chugging along for a June (I think) release

Twilight II (Eclipse?) is casting, possibly w/Dakota Fanning

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/4 "2009-01-29T16:12:36Z")

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Hobbit’s in pre-prod w/ McKellen already signed as Gandalf but I don’t know if anyone else has been signed or a script finalized. Chris Lee has said he’d be glad to do the voice of Smaug the dragon, but can’t physically make the trip to New Zealand again. G del Tori, of course, directing, but P Jackson producing. Also there’s talk of a linking-movie between Hobbit & LotR.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/5 "2009-01-29T16:18:10Z")

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Bond & Golden Compass (His Dark Materials trilogy) I don’t know. I’m sure there will be more Bond, at least one more with Craig.

And to if there should be- why not? Even if you don’t like any of that, there’s much worse crap greenlighted every day.

As to what I want to see-

Bond- don’t care, haven’t really watched a Bond film since Roger Moore

His Dark Mat- I’d kinda like to see it but won’t be heartbroken if not

Hobbit & link-movie- Hell to the Yeah!

Narnia- And that goes double!

Twilight- still need to see 1st one, but do want to

Potter- of course

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/6 "2009-01-29T16:57:04Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Hobbit’s in pre-prod w/ McKellen already signed as Gandalf but I don’t know if anyone else has been signed or a script finalized. Chris Lee has said he’d be glad to do the voice of Smaug the dragon, but can’t physically make the trip to New Zealand again. G del Tori, of course, directing, but P Jackson producing. Also there’s talk of a linking-movie between Hobbit & LotR.

**Ted** , given that I don’t believe in God, I’ll have to ask you to pray on my behalf that the linking movie never sees the light of day.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/7 "2009-01-29T17:03:20Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> **Ted** , given that I don’t believe in God, I’ll have to ask you to pray on my behalf that the linking movie never sees the light of day.

Sorry, I want to see it.😃

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/8 "2009-01-29T17:05:39Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Sorry, I want to see it.😃

Fine. I’ll go to Plan B: distracting Peter Jackson with hookers & blow.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/9 "2009-01-29T17:14:13Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Twilight II (Eclipse?) is casting, possibly w/Dakota Fanning

In what role?

-Kris

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/10 "2009-01-29T17:32:39Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> In what role?
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> -Kris

Screaming a lot.😃

I really do hope they make Dawn Treader. It’s a better book than Caspian.

OTOH, Dark Materials is a hwaaaay worse book that Compass, so I don;t see how that can work.

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**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/11 "2009-01-29T17:36:00Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> In what role?
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> -Kris

Jane of the Volturi. She’s an extremely minor part of the second book, so I wonder if they won’t beef up her role since Fanning would then be, by far, the biggest star in the franchise.

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**Author:** ![2\_Fat\_Cattle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/838e76/32.png) [@2\_Fat\_Cattle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2_Fat_Cattle)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/12 "2009-01-29T17:36:21Z")

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Frylock, [this article](http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.eonline.com/80655-) says Jane.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/13 "2009-01-29T17:37:15Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Screaming a lot.😃
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> I really do hope they make Dawn Treader. It’s a better book than Caspian.
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> OTOH, Dark Materials is a hwaaaay worse book that Compass, so I don;t see how that can work.

Well, of course Dark Materials is a worse book than Compass, as the former doesn’t exist.

His Dark Materials is the title of the entire _series_, which comprises Northern Lights (published as The Golden Compass in the US), The Subtle Knife, & The Amber Spyglass.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-sequels/483556/14 "2009-01-29T18:43:10Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I really do hope they make Dawn Treader. It’s a better book than Caspian.

[20th Century Fox has picked up the series](http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117999226.html?categoryid=13&cs=1):

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> Fox and Walden will split production and P&A costs for “Dawn Treader,” which is projected to go into production at a $140 million budget. That’s considerably less than the $215 million or so spent on last year’s “Prince Caspian,” which was considered something of a box office disappointment as compared with the first “Narnia” pic, 2005’s “The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe” ($419 million vs. $745 million worldwide, respectively).
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> Still, “Caspian,” which is considered the least commercially appealing of the seven C.S. Lewis “Narnia” novels, ranked No. 10 in global box office performance last year. “Dawn Treader” is considered to be a more family film-friendly book, and the goal is to get back to the magical aspects present in the first “Narnia” pic but mostly absent from “Prince Caspian.”
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> Ultimately, Fox’s commitment to the summer start date is contingent upon Walden’s selection of a writer. Richard LaGravanese penned the most recent draft that both Walden and Fox were happy with, but there’s a question about his availability because he has been adapting Sara Gruen’s bestseller “Water for Elephants” for Fox 2000.
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> After budget and script concerns are settled, Fox and Walden are expected to greenlight the film. The intention is to move the production away from Mexico, where, ironically, it was going to be shot at the Fox-owned Baja facility called Rosarito used for “Titanic” and “Master and Commander.” “Dawn Treader” will instead likely shoot in Australia because of concerns for the drug violence and kidnappings that are taking place near Baja.
