# State of the Union Address, March 7, 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 8, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590 "2024-03-08T01:21:08Z")\
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Who should it have been?

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I’m pretty sure she claimed we overturned the British Empire during the Revolutionary War. She’s smrt.

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Yes. Yes you are

Sigh. It was a nice fantasy while it lasted.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/224 "2024-03-09T07:44:07Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark quoting NBC](#):
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> Steve Nikoui, the father of Lance Cpl. Kareem Nikoui, was escorted out of the address after interrupting Biden’s speech to criticize the administration’s withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The withdrawl [set in motion by Trump](https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/US-Withdrawal-from-Afghanistan.pdf).

> President Biden had committed to ending the war in Afghanistan, but when he came  
> into office he was confronted with difficult realities left to him by the Trump  
> Administration. President Biden asked his military leaders about the options he faced,  
> including the ramifications of further delaying the deadline of May 1. He pressed his  
> intelligence professionals on whether it was feasible to keep 2,500 troops in Afghanistan  
> and both defend them against a renewed Taliban onslaught and maintain a degree of  
> stability in the country. The assessment from those intelligence professionals was that  
> the United States would need to send more American troops into harm’s way to ensure  
> our troops could defend themselves and to stop the stalemate from getting worse.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/225 "2024-03-09T10:58:56Z")

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In addition to being weird, Katie Britt also lied with her anecdote about gang rape:

> <https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1766302818678325759?t=PTccSa4A3yV76SL305IX5Q&s=19>

The person she spoke to who was trafficked was victimized in the aughts, not under Biden.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/226 "2024-03-09T13:00:53Z")

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I somehow that that was the story just from watching the video. I was confused why she was talking about some woman who was trafficked before Biden was in office.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/227 "2024-03-09T13:21:56Z")

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Maybe it’s the same gripe about how Obama didn’t do anything on Sept. 11.

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> I had cut over to Fox News right after the address to see how they were spinning it. Funny how their narrative of lost-a-step sleepy Joe suddenly became “he seems very angry, like a cranky old man”.

Yeah, what’s next with the ridiculous flip-flop criticisms?

**Before SOTU:** sleepy Joe has lost it. He’s senile.  
**After SOTU:** He’s too in touch and knowledgeable about his admin’s policies. He needs to delegate more!

**Before SOTU:** sleepy Joe can only read from a teleprompter. He can’t ad lib at all.  
**After SOTU:** He’s too mean to us with his ‘gotchas’ after we heckle him!

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/229 "2024-03-09T15:13:27Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Yeah, what’s next with the ridiculous flip-flop criticisms?

Fox has no issues with hypocrisy; it’s their brand. And their viewers have the memory of a goldfish.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/230 "2024-03-09T15:33:25Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Yeah, what’s next with the ridiculous flip-flop criticisms?

Can you honestly say you’re surprised? Flip-flopping often takes place in the same paragraph, occasionally in the same sentence.

Something major like forgiving insurrection takes a day or two.

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Can you honestly say you’re surprised? Flip-flopping often takes place in the same paragraph, occasionally in the same sentence.

No, not surprised at all. How to put it…? It’s like turning on the news and seeing that a 50 car pile-up happened on the freeway. I’m not surprised that it happened, but I’m taken aback and saddened at the sheer magnitude of the awfulness.

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> [@solost](#):
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> It’s like turning on the news and seeing that a 50 car pile-up happened on the freeway. I’m not surprised that it happened, but I’m taken aback and saddened at the sheer magnitude of the awfulness.

That describes so much of the current state of this country.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/233 "2024-03-09T17:42:46Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Can you honestly say you’re surprised? Flip-flopping often takes place in the same paragraph, occasionally in the same sentence.
> 
> Something major like forgiving insurrection takes a day or two.

We’re not quite to Orwell yet. From Wikipedia:

> During one particular Hate Week, [Oceania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceania_(fiction)) switched allies while a public speaker is in the middle of a sentence, although the disruption was minimal: the posters against the previous enemy were deemed to be “sabotage” of Hate Week conducted by [Emmanuel Goldstein](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Goldstein) and his supporters, summarily torn down by the crowd, and quickly replaced with propaganda against the new enemy, thus demonstrating the ease with which the Party directs the hatred of its members.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/234 "2024-03-09T17:56:24Z")

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If SNL does not do Katie Britt tonight, I shall be quite cross.

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> We’re not quite to Orwell yet.

Pretty darn close.

> “To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself – that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word ‘doublethink’ involved the use of doublethink.”  
> ― George Orwell, 1984

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I hope it’s the cold open, They don’t even have to write anything; that shit is comedy gold from the getgo.

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They could just run the real footage. Hehe. That would be hilarious.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/238 "2024-03-09T19:34:16Z")

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I dunno the real footage gave me simultaneous willies, and rage.

I’m ganna’ have to record it because I have to be up at 4:30 tomorrow.

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(from the quoted tweet by Congressman Jared Moskowitz)

> With your help, we can save another Republican from having to deliver a State of the Union response.

Personally, I’d prefer to keep them making the responses. And thus not the SOTU itself.

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> If SNL does not do Katie Britt tonight, I shall be quite cross.

Same.

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