# State of the Union Address, March 7, 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 8, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590 "2024-03-08T01:21:08Z")\
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> [@BigT](#):
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> Personally, I’d prefer to keep them making the responses. And thus not the SOTU itself.

Precisely my thought.

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Ok, now this is seriously the best response. This is a serious one, don’t expect humor. I’d vote for this woman for any office she wants.

> <https://twitter.com/IAm_THEPaulina/status/1766522044315738447>

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I am reminded of a Forbidden Broadway performance of Spamalot’s “The Song that Goes Like This”. (Forbidden Broadway does parodies of Broadway numbers). The singers do two verses of “The Song That Goes Like This”, when suddenly they start singing “Hey! We didn’t change any of these lyrics”, and begin ranting (in song) about how the writers of Spamalot have stolen Forbidden Broadway’s Intellectual property by pre-parodying the song, they should sue, etc. It’s pretty funny.

I can imagine SNL doing something similar here. Heidi Gardner mimicking the speech, then calling out the “writers” for not actually writing anything, or such.

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Ok, now this is seriously the best response. This is a serious one, don’t expect humor. I’d vote for this woman for any office she wants.
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> [https://twitter.com/IAm\_THEPaulina/status/1766522044315738447](https://twitter.com/IAm_THEPaulina/status/1766522044315738447)

Republicans have never been too bothered by the contradiction of using powerful career women to sing the praises of stay-at-home moms.

Also, her critique seems to lift the blame off Britt’s shoulders by saying that the party put her in her ktchen to deliver the speech. She’s a senator and capable of making her own decisions. At best, she was willing to give the speech she did; at worst it was her idea.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/245 "2024-03-10T05:33:14Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> If SNL does not do Katie Britt tonight, I shall be quite cross.

They came through.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0m1q3rhUjBo/hqdefault.jpg "SNL Cold Open Mocks Biden accused Trump of "burying the truth of the riot" in his State of the Union") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m1q3rhUjBo)

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When I color, I do the ears first, too.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/247 "2024-03-10T06:04:33Z")

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Scarlett Johansson‘s Katie Britt was like [Jo Stafford’s Darleen Edwards:](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8do_Vsc4Frw&pp=ygUPZGFybGVuZSBlZHdhcmRz) a bad performance as only a good performer can accomplish

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/248 "2024-03-10T07:15:15Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > [@Hampshire](#):
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> > I had cut over to Fox News right after the address to see how they were spinning it. Funny how their narrative of lost-a-step sleepy Joe suddenly became “he seems very angry, like a cranky old man”.
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> And the Foxites can count on their audience having NO memory that _up until last night_ the Bad Thing About Biden was that he was old and sleepy. It’s ALWAYS been the case that Biden is too angry (and energetic)!!!
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> The ‘left-leaning’ media were annoying today, too. Desperate for talking points so they could fill their time, they were all ‘oh noes Biden used the word Ilegal!’ Carefully left out was the actual fact: Marjorie Taylor Greene had used the word, then Biden, in answering her heckle, quoted her:
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> > MARIA CARDONA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: So, I kind of jumped as well when I heard that word, but when I went back to actually look at the back and forth, he was playing on what she had said. She had said illegal. He said, yes, illegal, but how many thousands are killed by legals?
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> > So it was him defending the reputation –
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> But that doesn’t make for a juicy story. Accusing Biden of having used the word out of the blue, as his own choice—_there’s_ your juicy story!
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> Jerks.  
> [CNN.com - Transcripts](https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/cnr/date/2024-03-08/segment/25)

There’s a Pit thread on that very subject that’s about thirty times longer than it needs to be, given that only one Doper (apparently) seems to have their panties in a twist over it.

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Scarlet didn’t do the weird breathy voice. Too much actual emotion.

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I did not watch the SotU or response, what is the deal with the tea cup?

Thanks,  
Brian

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It’s a GET OUT reference.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-address-march-7-2024/998590/252 "2024-03-10T20:25:50Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Scarlet didn’t do the weird breathy voice. Too much actual emotion.

Yes, I was a bit disappointed in that. She came close after she said something like ‘and now for no apparent reason I’m going to be all sexy’–but she could have been doing it the whole time.

In fairness, Saturday night is only two days after Thursday night.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> There’s a Pit thread on that very subject

I will look for it!

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Maybe Scarlet didn’t do the whole thing in the Fundie Baby Voice because it’s hard to do if you haven’t been trained in it from an early age.

I tried to do it today, and could barely achieve a decent approximation – and had to quit after a few phrases because of the discomfort and effort.

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She did a good job but I did a total whoosh on the Get out reference. Is that movie worth a watch?

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I saw Get Out on DVD a couple of years ago and I enjoyed it. For those who don’t know it’s a horror movie that tackles racist subject matter. Directed by Jordan Peele it also has the actor who played Josh Lyman on The West Wing playing one of the villains. Like I said it’s been a few years but I remember having a very positive opinion of it when I saw it.

But as this is technically a hijack I will leave this post short and have no intention of posting about the movie again in the thread.

> **[Get Out](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Out)**
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> Get Out is a 2017 American psychological black horror film written, co-produced, and directed by Jordan Peele in his directorial debut. It stars Daniel Kaluuya, Allison Williams, Lil Rel Howery, LaKeith Stanfield, Bradley Whitford, Caleb Landry Jones, Stephen Root, and Catherine Keener. The plot follows a young black man (Kaluuya), who uncovers shocking secrets when he meets the family of his white girlfriend (Williams).
> Principal photography began in February 2016 in Fairhope, Alabama, then ...

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Maybe Scarlet didn’t do the whole thing in the Fundie Baby Voice because it’s hard to do if you haven’t been trained in it from an early age.

Fair point. And as mentioned there were only about 48 hours between the stimulus and the response–not enough time to work up a new voice with consistency, perhaps.

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Scarlet didn’t quite have the “maintain a shit-eating grin while talking” down like Katie did. Her reaction to being called out for falsely implying that her human trafficking story actually happened in the GWB administration was classless.

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> her critique seems to lift the blame off Britt’s shoulders by saying that the party put her in her ktchen to deliver the speech

If it was the Party’s choice, they would have had her _ **deliver** _ the speech from the Maternity Ward.

Meanwhile, Ms Britt [tried to walk back](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/sen-katie-britt-attempts-clean-misleading-state-union-response-rcna142650) her immigration sex trafficking story, surprise, surprise, without actually walking it back.

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I assume you meant to embed this SNL video:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cCfLpuLdF8Q/maxresdefault.jpg "State of the Union Cold Open - SNL") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCfLpuLdF8Q&t=148)

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I provided this link in the pit, but I think it belongs here as well. James Fallows annotates the State of the Union address, comparing it to past SOTU speeches, a few of which he worked on.

One thing I noticed was Joe Biden’s preference for short declarative sentences. I think it works.

> **[Election Countdown, 240 Days to Go: The General Election Campaign Has Begun.](https://fallows.substack.com/p/election-countdown-240-days-to-go)**
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> A speech that was even harder-edged than it sounded. Plus, what Joe Biden has learned from Elmore Leonard. (A speech annotation.)

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