# State of the Union thread? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 2, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322 "2022-03-02T03:09:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/21 "2022-03-02T04:42:02Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > So fine, be a bunch of haters. I thought he nailed it. But I’m sure the “Biden is senile crowd” will find a lot to lie about. > > And what exactly did Boebert shout? Agree with every word of the first sentence. My big take away was that he shifted to a new topic without warning but that is a small complaint. He was kind and folksy and uniting. Despite the fact that some of his pet projects were not passed and sent for him to sign into law – he made a new appeal for them showing that he really cares. I hope it moves some congresspeople. Yes, the two people who shouted out were Boebert and Greene. What low class, self aggrandizing, despicable humans they have revealed themselves to be. Whatever they did say has not made any news source I have seen. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/22 "2022-03-02T04:45:29Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > Whatever they did say has not made any news source I have seen. That unprintable, huh? (And yes, I found that Alex Walker video. It took all of 35 microseconds to find it on google. Definitely a non-traditional political campaign add, yes it is.) ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/23 "2022-03-02T04:45:40Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > You’ve seen her opponent Alex Walker’s campaign ad? (I won’t link to it- really scatological) Thanks (?), I just watched that and it is legitimately not a good ad and not worth it. They needed Raphael Warnock’s team: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/aHbXAOm6qzg/hqdefault.jpg "Raphael Warnock ad likens Loeffler attacks to dog poo.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHbXAOm6qzg) ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/24 "2022-03-02T04:50:01Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > That unprintable, huh? I am doing broadcast tonight, someone linked to it above but I did not subscribe in order to read it. The networks and the cable news networks seem reluctant to give it any airtime. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/25 "2022-03-02T04:53:37Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > Whatever they did say has not made any news source I have seen. Here’s an article that quotes at least some of their heckles. According to this article, Boebert and Greene heckled Biden repeatedly throughout the speech. The quotes given here appear to be just a sampling. Astonishingly, they also seem to say that Biden _engaged_ with them, responding to some of their heckles. > **[Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert heckle Biden, turn their backs...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/state-of-union-attending-mtg-boebert-b2026381.html)** > > Congresswomen relentlessly shouted, interrupted, laughed and tweeted their way through speech ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/26 "2022-03-02T05:00:31Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > Whatever they did say has not made any news source I have seen. Here’s another article about Boebert and Greene heckling. It repeats some of the same quotes as the above-linked _Independent_ article. This article also includes a photo of B. and G. standing up at their seats with their pie-holes wide open, shouting. It is mentioned that others in the chamber booed them. They also turned their backs on Biden when he entered. These two definitely made pigs of themselves. > **[Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene heckle Biden during State of the Union](https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/lauren-boebert-marjorie-taylor-greene-043410308.html)** > > The two Republican congresswomen could be heard heckling President Joe Biden as he delivered his State of the Union address. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/27 "2022-03-02T05:08:51Z")
What cause do they believe they are helping with this kind of behavior? I’m mystified. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/28 "2022-03-02T05:09:54Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > These two definitely made pigs of themselves. It seems a couple of states have elected mean girls to congress. How they not both named Heather?? They are so sadly juvenile and small minded. They HOPE they get detention for making a scene during assembly. It adds to their street cred and sincerely compromises any support they have from serious minded people of any stripe. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/29 "2022-03-02T05:10:56Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What cause do they believe they are helping with this kind of behavior? I’m mystified. Agreed! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/30 "2022-03-02T05:11:14Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > These two definitely made pigs of themselves. With all due apologies to _actual_ pigs, I should add. ETA: I found the reddit thread where they’re commenting on this too. I see that I am hardly the only one to call them “pigs”. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/31 "2022-03-02T05:52:43Z")
Reelection and campaign donations? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/32 "2022-03-02T06:49:14Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What cause do they believe they are helping with this kind of behavior? Owning the libtards. That’s the only cause that matters anymore. They sure as hell don’t have any positions or agendas to work on. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/33 "2022-03-02T06:58:59Z")
What was the last state of the union address that had any meaningful consequences, good or bad? 2002 and the “axis of evil” (which cut off diplomacy with Iran and North Korea for a decade)? > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I listened to a good part of it but its like the speechwriters for this didn’t even listen to the POTUS. Oh, they almost certainly wrote it well beforehand. To the extent that any of this matters (the whole pageant will probably be forgotten by noon), you don’t want to take a gift of network airtime and use it to talk about what _the other party_ wants to talk about, you want to talk about your own stuff. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/34 "2022-03-02T08:06:04Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > What was the last state of the union address that had any meaningful consequences, good or bad? 2002 and the “axis of evil” (which cut off diplomacy with Iran and North Korea for a decade)? It destroyed the US’s unipolar moment. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/35 "2022-03-02T11:07:01Z")
Rex Huppke’s take on the SOTU: > **[Biden State of the Union address divisively demanded unity, and I'm mad about...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2022/03/02/biden-state-of-the-union-unity-agenda-gop-joshua/9334536002/)** > > President Joe Biden used his State of the Union speech to encourage Americans to unite as one. I found that approach very divisive. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/36 "2022-03-02T11:25:14Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > But a great orator he is not. I must agree; he rushes his words at times, stammers at other times (yes, I know it’s a lifelong affliction. Yes, I appreciate that he had to overcome it to become a public speaker. It doesn’t change the fact that he doesn’t have a smooth delivery) But I did like the speech. I really like the fact that he didn’t begin with the standard “the state of our union is strong”, especially when so many people don’t feel that way. Instead, it came at the end, as part of the best part of the speech (when he said the state of the union was strong because the people were strong), where he also proclaimed that we were doing better than we were a year ago, and we will be doing even better a year from now. I think that Biden’s term will mirror Reagan’s first. Remember, Reagan begin his term with a recession, and was beset by high inflation and unemployment. But by 1984, it was “morning in America.” I predict a similar path in 2024. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/37 "2022-03-02T13:17:10Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > It is mentioned that others in the chamber booed them. Oh! I hadn’t been able to make out what was being shouted, but I did hear the boos, so I thought the whole mess was directed at Biden. What was going on with the cameras? The panning jerked back and forth, and there was quite a bit of random zooming. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/38 "2022-03-02T13:28:22Z")
Coming in after Obama would make anyone seem sub-par, but yes Biden is competent, not great. ---
**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/39 "2022-03-02T13:46:01Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > With all due apologies to _actual_ pigs, I should add. > > ETA: I found the reddit thread where they’re commenting on this too. I see that I am hardly the only one to call them “pigs”. Fox has an article, without mention of words like “heckling”, of course. [Boebert wears 'Drill Baby Drill' outfit to SOTU, yells at Biden over 13 troops killed in Afghanistan pullout](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/boebert-wears-drill-baby-drill-outfit-sotu-message-biden) Based on the comments, conservatives think Boebert & MTG are heros, showing other Republicans how it should be done. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/40 "2022-03-02T14:08:32Z")
Another quite forgettable Republican response. Maybe not as disastrous as Bobby Jindhal or Little Marco’s attempts to sneak sips of water but pretty lame all the same. As for the silly bitches Heckle and Jekyll, they should be disinvited from any future SOTUs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322.md?page=3)