# State of the Union thread?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 2, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322 "2022-03-02T03:09:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/41 "2022-03-02T14:12:25Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Another quite forgettable Republican response. Maybe not as disastrous as Bobby Jindhal or Little Marco’s attempts to sneak sips of water but pretty lame all the same.

I kept waiting for a policy proposal. I didn’t hear one.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/42 "2022-03-02T15:03:10Z")

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> [@Ziberian](#):
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> conservatives think Boebert & MTG are heros

Please stop using “conservatve” incorrectly.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/43 "2022-03-02T15:18:55Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> As for the silly bitches Heckle and Jekyll, they should be disinvited from any future SOTUs.

If there are any brains left in Georgia and Colorado, neither of them will be in Congress next SotU.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/44 "2022-03-02T15:26:36Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> If there are any brains left in Georgia and Colorado, neither of them will be in Congress next SotU.

It’s not the state as a whole; they represent specific districts.

I would not care to speculate what the people of, say, Colorado’s 3rd district must be like to elect someone who has been arrested multiple times and who managed to give food poisoning to 80 people from an illegal food stand they set up. But then Louis Gohmert got elected several times too, so there’s no accounting for taste or sense sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/45 "2022-03-02T15:29:23Z")

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Oh it’s being used correctly

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/46 "2022-03-02T15:32:52Z")

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Classless dolts.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/47 "2022-03-02T15:41:08Z")

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You think so? I have a hard time imagining anyone who would support either of those women fitting the description of a conservative.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/48 "2022-03-02T15:55:48Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> I have a hard time imagining anyone who would support either of those women fitting the description of a conservative.

They supported the male version of these nincompoops for the office of President.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/49 "2022-03-02T15:55:49Z")

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Then you’re simply out of touch with modern American politics and what conservative means.

It’s not the 80’s anymore.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/50 "2022-03-02T16:05:02Z")

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Who was the gentleman seated between Boebert and Taylor-Greene? The look on his face spoke for the multitudes.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/51 "2022-03-02T16:06:03Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> I listened to a good part of it but its like the speechwriters for this didn’t even listen to the POTUS.

They never do. Because of timing the response has to be written before the SOTU address. I’m sure they do a few on-the-fly addenda but overall the response is already in the can.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/52 "2022-03-02T16:14:56Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> It’s not the 80’s anymore.

They were not “conservatives” in the 80s any more than they are now, and the word they stole from conservatives needs to be taken back from them.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/53 "2022-03-02T17:01:31Z")

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Byron Donalds of Florida

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/54 "2022-03-02T17:36:06Z")

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Conservatives have been on the wrong side of history on every important issue since the modern definition of liberalism and conservatism emerged in the late 19th century.

There has never been a good conservatism. It always swung to the most horrific opinions and policies of the day. The difference used to be that parties had more than one wing and that allowed some cover for the worst excesses.

Other wings than the far, extreme, and crazy-right no longer exist. What you are seeing is pure unadulterated conservatism. Pretty awful, isn’t it? Indefensible. Democracy killing. But that’s the conservatism conservatives have always been defending. The sheet, so to speak, has been pulled off.

And as a old-timer who lived through the Vietnam era, I receive joy you cannot possibly imagine in getting to call conservatives commie-lovers. Commie-lover, Commie-lover, Commie-lover! The 60s are laughing hysterically.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/55 "2022-03-02T17:42:59Z")

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Has Joe Manchin gone full DINO?

[https://news.yahoo.com/manchin-sits-republicans-during-state-031721449.html](https://news.yahoo.com/manchin-sits-republicans-during-state-031721449.html)

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/56 "2022-03-02T17:51:26Z")

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> [@DeadTreasSecretaries](#):
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> I get that all is fair in love in war but like… this feels petty even for the Republicans.

Not really. This is who they are now.

Trolls who are actively fighting against their own country.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/57 "2022-03-02T18:11:11Z")

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I’m another old-timer who lived through the Vietnam era.

I’ve been tempted to have a t-shirt printed with one of the ubiquitous maps that shows states that went for the Dem as blue, and those who went for the Rep as red.

The caption of course would be “Better Dead than Red.”

However, I’m quite certain that the typical person wouldn’t get the joke.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/58 "2022-03-02T18:14:13Z")

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Maybe. But I’d love it.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/59 "2022-03-02T18:16:57Z")

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Haven’t found a link yet, but apparently, 78% of Americans approved of Biden’s SOTU address.

ETA:

> **[Most speech watchers say State of the Union made them feel optimistic, proud...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-state-of-the-union-speech-watchers-reactions/)**
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> More than half say the speech made them feel the coronavirus is mostly behind us.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-of-the-union-thread/960322/60 "2022-03-02T18:31:48Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> I kept waiting for a policy proposal. I didn’t hear one.

“Vote for Trump.” What else could it possibly be?

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