# State Superintendent orders students to listen to hate speech

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 15, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296 "2024-11-15T18:35:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/121 "2024-11-21T21:28:08Z")

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Say what you will about the tenets of the Republican Party; at least it’s an ethos.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/122 "2024-11-21T21:29:30Z")

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God will strike you down for this.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/123 "2024-11-21T21:36:26Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Saturday is AR day.

I know the almighty Lord probably knows better, , and I am glad that in his VENGEFUL ANGER he is still keeping trigger safety. Is that not the all-american children’s version of the AR?

I’ve weilded far larger weapons, and I only know the basics of shooting. Apparently it is light for a rifle, but it looks a bit small for Almighty God.

ETA, i think I bagged the last three posts in this thread as replies. I will pipe-down now, as

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> Now I lay me down to sleep,  
> I pray the Lord my Soul to keep;  
> If I should die before I 'wake,  
> I pray the Lord my Soul is fake

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/124 "2024-11-21T21:40:40Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> I’ve weilded far larger weapons, and I only know the basics of shooting. Apparently it iis light for a rifle, but it looks a bit small for Almighty God.

It’s not the caliber of your rifle, but the caliber of your FAITH that matters!

(I’m guessing.)

Maybe he makes the bullets bigger as they leave the barrel, like turning water into wine. Or the bullets multiply like the loaves and fishes.

(Yeah I’m a Christian but I am allowed to have a sense of humor, and lightning hasn’t struck me yet.)

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/125 "2024-11-21T21:49:52Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> (Yeah I’m a Christian but I am allowed to have a sense of humor, and lightning hasn’t struck me yet.)

Uh … bomb cyclone???

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/126 "2024-11-21T22:00:30Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Uh … bomb cyclone???

I lost power for 15 seconds during the bomb cyclone, so if that is retribution it’s barely a slap on the wrist. 😃

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/127 "2024-11-21T22:22:34Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> I am pretty sure Jesus and Dad chatted when they were alone, the rest of the time Jesus was telling people what a great dad he had (possibly not his actual words)

Ah, but what about when he asked God to forgive them, for they know not what they do? Weren’t “they” there then? (And, at that: wasn’t he in public when asking God why He had forsaken him?)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/128 "2024-11-21T22:36:01Z")

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Talking to God is the prayer. Saying the words out loud isn’t. The two can be done together, or either can be done without the other. When humans wish to pray together, as we sometimes do, we sometimes speak words out loud, for the benefit of our fellow humans, to coordinate our prayers. But the spoken words still aren’t the prayers.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/129 "2024-11-21T22:44:28Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Yeah, maybe so. I was surrounded by these cult members and they all seemed to try to be the loudest in the group. It was freaky as shit.

Much of the point of public prayer is to show off that _you_ are more enthusiastic and thus more pious than everyone else. People can get _very_ competitive over that sort of social display, and not just the religious ones.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/130 "2024-11-21T22:55:46Z")

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When I walk somewhere, I like to focus and sometimes I pray out loud. I have perfected doing so without moving my lips noticably so onlookers will not think, “That crazy lady talking to herself.”

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/131 "2024-11-21T22:57:36Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> But the spoken words still aren’t the prayers.

In some religions. In other religions, spoken words definitely _are_ the prayers, and certain prayers have to be spoken out loud to “count”. Not every religion is Protestantism.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/132 "2024-11-21T23:23:14Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> When I walk somewhere, I like to focus and sometimes I pray out loud. I have perfected doing so without moving my lips noticably so onlookers will not think, “That crazy lady talking to herself"

i’m hoping you carry a ventriloquist’s dummy.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/133 "2024-11-21T23:30:18Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> When I walk somewhere, I like to focus and sometimes I pray out loud. I have perfected doing so without moving my lips noticably so onlookers will not think, “That crazy lady talking to herself.”

Perfectly fine. It helps you. That’s great.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/134 "2024-11-21T23:30:43Z")

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Have you ever – even for a moment – pictured her any other way?

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/135 "2024-11-21T23:46:14Z")

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I can’t imagine why anyone would.

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/136 "2024-11-21T23:54:15Z")

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Fuckin’ amateurs.

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/137 "2024-11-21T23:56:01Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> When I walk somewhere, I like to focus and sometimes I pray out loud. I have perfected doing so without moving my lips noticably so onlookers will not think, “That crazy lady talking to herself.

I would’ve been tempted to hold a cellphone just so: on the one hand, anyone who can’t hear me would maybe figure I’m moving my lips because I’m quietly carrying on a mundane conversation; on the other, anyone who manages to eavesdrop is free to wonder just who the heck I’m praising so effusively…

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/138 "2024-11-22T01:21:28Z")

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This is true:

> [@Chronos](#):
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> Talking to God is the prayer

We think prayer is all about intercession and asking forgiveness, but young Jesus was probably more, all about praying his new sandalls and robe would impress Mary Magdalene, the new ‘hot chick’ at Alef Shin Tav sorority just near the Temple entrance.

I mean, we all talk all we like about how (and if) his mom was a virgin, but we never talk about Jesus’ sex life, the poor guy. He probably never got lucky.

Probably got bullied in carpentry school, too.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/139 "2024-11-22T08:04:46Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > [@enipla](#):
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> > Yeah, maybe so. I was surrounded by these cult members and they all seemed to try to be the loudest in the group. It was freaky as shit.
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> Much of the point of public prayer is to show off that _you_ are more enthusiastic and thus more pious than everyone else. People can get _very_ competitive over that sort of social display, and not just the religious ones.

One of my favorite religion jokes: A young priest is in the church between services, standing before the altar, beating his breast, and declaiming “Lord, Lord, I am not worthy!”

The Monsignor passes through, and sees his subordinate praying. Not wanting to seem less pious, he steps to the altar, beats his breast and declaims “Lord, Lord, I am not worthy!”

The church custodian has been tidying up the choir loft, observing the scene. Inspired by such religious fervor, he runs to the altar, beats his breast, and declaims “Lord, Lord, I am not worthy!”

The Monsignor elbows the younger priest in the side and says “Look who thinks he’s not worthy!”

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/state-superintendent-orders-students-to-listen-to-hate-speech/1010296/140 "2024-11-22T11:00:17Z")

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The first time I saw someone with earbuds I really thought they were talking to themselves.

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