# States that don't get four seasons. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 23, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961 "2019-04-23T23:32:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/21 "2019-04-24T11:36:34Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I take OP to mean the entirety of the state, in which case Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, might apply. North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, Texas don’t work (and South Carolina?). > > Hawaii certainly works, it’s the only state with no record of negative temperatures (in F), the minimum is 15 F. Parts of Alaska can get hot. > > I know what your meaning is, but NM and UT don’t really have low deserts except relatively. And the low part of NV is pretty small, it’s 2000 feet by the time you get to Vegas, which doesn’t have strong seasons every year, but it did this last one. I had to google “low desert” to find out it’s a California term. Utah’s deserts are between 4,000 and 5,000 ft. Northern Utah has much colder winters than the Southern Utah ones, and the temperature extremes are reversed in the summer. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/22 "2019-04-24T11:57:51Z")
Rhode Island has no love for Frankie Valli. ---
**Author:** ![CastletonSnob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@CastletonSnob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CastletonSnob)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/23 "2019-04-24T12:05:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Depending on how you define “seasons”, you could assign any number of them to any given location. What most people think of. Snow in winter, cool weather with lots of colorful leaves in the fall, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/24 "2019-04-24T12:14:47Z")
> [@CastletonSnob](#): > > What most people think of. Snow in winter, cool weather with lots of colorful leaves in the fall, etc. That’s what the four seasons mean in the northern part of the US, but it’s not universal. And even Alabama has a ski area in the northern hills, they typically have natural snow a few times a year. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/25 "2019-04-24T12:23:35Z")
> [@CastletonSnob](#): > > what are the states that don’t have four distinct seasons? Northern Territory has two … Wet and Dry > [@kunilou](#): > > Of course there are about 300 seasons in San Francisco, many of which last less than a day. Same goes for Melbourne, and the rest of Victoria. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/26 "2019-04-24T12:31:03Z")
Most of “The South” has four distinct seasons. They may be briefer or more or less harsh than in other places, but they exist. ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/27 "2019-04-24T12:54:45Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > California is too large and geologically diverse to categorize. Some areas have 4 seasons and some have 1, with variations in between. We have seasons, they just have different names Flood, mud, fire, and earthquake. ---
**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/28 "2019-04-24T13:46:46Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Most of “The South” has four distinct seasons. They may be briefer or more or less harsh than in other places, but they exist. Yea, New England says the South doesn’t have a “real Winter” and the South responds that New England doesn’t have a “real Summer.” ---
**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/29 "2019-04-24T13:52:07Z")
I forgot to add that many Southerners think the “Four distinct seasons” is the Northern positive-spin marketing phrase for “It is God-awful cold here for 5 months of the year” or “See these biceps? I got them from shoveling 90 inches of snow.” ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/30 "2019-04-24T16:29:15Z")
> [@cincinnatus](#): > > Everybody gets all four seasons really. Well, sure. But try defining them in southern AZ Winter: December and January. Sunny and cool. It can get below freezing, and even snow at the higher elevations, but it doesn’t last a day, and it’s mid 50s in the afternoon. It can rain, but don’t count on it. Spring. Feb- April. Sunny and warm. Highs in the 70s-90s, lows in the 40-50s. It can rain, but don’t count on it. If it does, wildflowers bloom. That’s something. Overcast days are possible. Arizona: May-Sept. Sunny and HOT. Highs in the 110s, lows in the 90s. During July, we get monsoons - heavy afternoon rains. Other than that - clear skies and no precipitation at all for months. Fall: Sept-Dec. Sunny and mostly hot. Highs in the low 100s, lows in the mid-80s. Or, the “two season” POV. Nov-April: Snowbirds. April-Nov. No snowbirds. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/31 "2019-04-24T17:07:31Z")
> [@Hermitian](#): > > Yea, New England says the South doesn’t have a “real Winter” and the South responds that New England doesn’t have a “real Summer.” Vermont does too have a summer. Last year, it came on a Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/32 "2019-04-24T17:21:58Z")
> [@cincinnatus](#): > > Everybody gets all four seasons really. Yeah, but for some areas there isn’t a sharp demarcation between them. I moved from southern California to Ohio and, while I knew that I’d be seeing a real autumn, I wasn’t really prepared for spring, which was amazingly green all of a sudden. Now I’m in northern California, so I’m back where seasons sort of slouch into each other. Except for the times when it suddenly turns hot and stays that way. But that isn’t every year. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/33 "2019-04-25T20:50:55Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > Western Washington definitely has four seasons: > Wet > Really wet > Grey and wet > Two weeks of hot I once hit that two weeks of hot while in Washington. You forgot to say that it’s also wet then. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/34 "2019-04-25T21:00:27Z")
> [@drachillix](#): > > We have seasons, they just have different names > > Flood, mud, fire, and earthquake. I thought that was the apocalypse. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/35 "2019-04-25T21:56:11Z")
Since there’s no scientific definition of seasons, let’s move this to IMHO. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![jayrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/47e85d/32.png) [@jayrey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayrey)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/36 "2019-04-25T23:04:43Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > West coast states: California, Oregon, Washington. > Low deserts in Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, etc. > > Hawaii. Sorry, but I disagree about Oregon and Washington. We have four very distinct seasons. In my experience, Southern California has only two seasons: dry (nine months of the year) and cooler with some rain (three months of the year). Idaho and Utah have two seasons, summer and winter, and two ten-day transitional periods (not true seasons), kinda-spring and kinda-fall. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/37 "2019-04-26T02:34:52Z")
As an aside, the old Japanese system, based on a Chinese system, has 72 micro-seasons. There is an app for tracking them, and it is quite illuminating. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/38 "2019-04-26T02:49:55Z")
> [@jayrey](#): > > Idaho and Utah have two seasons, summer and winter, and two ten-day transitional periods (not true seasons), kinda-spring and kinda-fall. Not sure if you are attempting a joke here, but it’s definitely not the case. Here are the average temperatures and precipitation per month in Salt Lake. [http://www.rssweather.com/climate/Utah/Salt%20Lake%20City/](http://www.rssweather.com/climate/Utah/Salt%20Lake%20City/) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/39 "2019-04-26T03:28:47Z")
> [@jayrey](#): > > Idaho and Utah have two seasons, summer and winter, and two ten-day transitional periods (not true seasons), kinda-spring and kinda-fall. When I lived in Missouri, we said the same thing. It went from fucking cold to fucking hot with hardly a stop in between. ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/40 "2019-04-26T03:54:06Z")
Hawaii has a “winter”. During January and the first half on February temperatures can dip into the low 60’s, both bananas and papayas take significantly longer to ripen on their respective trees during this time… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961.md?page=3)