# States that don't get four seasons.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 23, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961 "2019-04-23T23:32:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/41 "2019-04-26T15:34:24Z")

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I lived in Tallahassee, Florida for college and it definitely gets seasons. Now, they’re not like Chicago seasons, but there is certainly a crisp fall at times, and it’s more winter like than you’d get in Miami. There’s even snow every now and then although usually not with any accumulation.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/42 "2019-04-26T16:05:34Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Most of “The South” has four distinct seasons. They may be briefer or more or less harsh than in other places, but they exist.

New Orleans doesn’t get snow but winter there can be brutally cold. We moved from Brewster, NY, to Kenner between my freshman & sophomore years of high school and were quite surprised when we returned home from Christmas vacation to find our pipes had frozen. Our first Mardi Gras was in the middle of February; we went downtown and the wind cut through my parka like it was nothing!

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/43 "2019-04-26T16:06:19Z")

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> [@Hermitian](#):
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> Yea, New England says the South doesn’t have a “real Winter” and the South responds that New England doesn’t have a “real Summer.”

Exactly. 80F Sunny with a light breeze is spring time.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/44 "2019-04-26T17:32:43Z")

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South Texas has 3 seasons if you only consider temperature. Sometime in the middle of March to early April we go from winter to summer without having a spring. If you take into account the wildflowers, rain pattern, and the wind, we do have four seasons. Summer starts in June and goes through September, and is hot with not much wind. When it rains it’s a downpour for an hour or two with lightning and thunder. Fall is cooler, but still with summer style rain. Winter has mostly cool days with an occasional cold day. When it rains in winter it’s drizzly rain that lasts a whole day or two, without lightning and thunder. Spring is wildflower season, and most days are windy whether or not it’s raining. Temperature wise it’s a mix of either winter or summer, the former more likely in March, the latter more likely starting in mid April.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/45 "2019-04-26T19:36:22Z")

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We in the South do so have four seasons. They are Football, Tornado, Baseball, and 2nd Tornado.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/46 "2019-04-26T20:32:16Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> West coast states: California, Oregon, Washington.  
> Low deserts in Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, etc.
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> Hawaii.

California is a big state. It has very diverse seasons in different parts of the state. Lumping it all into not having four seasons is not true.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/47 "2019-04-26T20:33:16Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> I once hit that two weeks of hot while in Washington. You forgot to say that it’s also wet then.

Ya, I kind of forgot some details on that one.

To get the two weeks of hot instead of two weeks of hot plus rain, you’re going to want to be in one of these locations:  
Two blocks north and east of Seattle.  
or 1/4 mile south of I-90 at mile marker 22.

No guarantees in any other place.

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**Author:** ![lingyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@lingyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lingyi)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/48 "2019-04-28T02:33:28Z")

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> [@Mangosteen](#):
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> Hawaii has a “winter”. During January and the first half on February temperatures can dip into the low 60’s, both bananas and papayas take significantly longer to ripen on their respective trees during this time…

Yep and we bust out the heavy jackets and sweaters while the tourists are walking around in shorts and t-shirts! :eek:

I think we only have two seasons, Pre-Summer/Summer (Mar - Oct) where it goes from kind of hot to really hot, then back to kind of hot, and Pre-Winter/Winter (Nov-Feb) where it goes from kind of cool to cool (never cold by mainland standards) and back to kind of cool. 😛

I’ve been living in an apartment the past two years and because my only windows face a busy/smelly main street, it’s on whenever I’m home. My only indication of season when I’m at home is that I slowly turn it cooler during Pre=Summer/Summer and higher during Pre-Winter/Winter.

Edit: Last year we had the biggest temperature variance that I’ve ever known. Lows of high 50’s (in the South of Oahu where I live) to the highs of mid 90’s! Still "Hawaii no ka oi! (Hawaii is the best!)

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/49 "2019-04-28T03:25:03Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Miami does get four seasons, but they last 6 months each. Cold winter, hot and dry summer, cool winter, lots of hurricanes summer.

Don’t forget snowbird season!

~Max

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/50 "2019-04-28T03:38:27Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> I don’t live there, but I’ve heard that Minnesota also has only two seasons: Snow Removal and Road Repair, although sometimes it’s the other way around.

Winter and Road Construction is how we say it.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/51 "2019-04-28T04:18:43Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Winter and Road Construction is how we say it.

But you can’t make the “other way around” joke with that.

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/52 "2019-04-28T13:21:15Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> New Orleans doesn’t get snow but winter there can be brutally cold. We moved from Brewster, NY, to Kenner between my freshman & sophomore years of high school and were quite surprised when we returned home from Christmas vacation to find our pipes had frozen. Our first Mardi Gras was in the middle of February; we went downtown and the wind cut through my parka like it was nothing!

Are you sure this wasn’t a freak event? I’ve been to New Orleans in February and don’t remember it being cold at all so I looked up the average temps- and the average low in New Orleans in Jan (the coldest month) was 43 degrees. That’s probably warmer than the average January high in Brewster.

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/53 "2019-04-28T20:01:45Z")

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> [@jayrey](#):
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> Idaho and Utah have two seasons, summer and winter, and two ten-day transitional periods (not true seasons), kinda-spring and kinda-fall.

That might be true for Eastern Idaho but Southwest Idaho has 3 full seasons plus El Niño, spring, summer, fall. Winter cycles from fall just gradually blending into spring with temps as ranging from 40s to mid 50s throughout the winter to winters with bone chilling cold and lots of snow.

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/54 "2019-05-01T01:13:52Z")

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The AC is back in the window. We are now in the season of: open the windows and doors as soon as it’s under seventy to cool off the house at night. I take that to be Spring. Autumn is: open the windows and doors as soon as it’s over seventy to warm up the house during the day. Summer and Winter, the doors and windows stay shut.

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/states-that-dont-get-four-seasons/832961/55 "2019-05-01T02:53:20Z")

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Some people argue that northern New England doesn’t have spring, but we **do**. It’s the last week of April all the way through the end of the second week of May; after mud season but before Summer.

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