I don’t think you can say that of any book with fabricated footnotes.
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Not so fast, Berdy apparently had it put back up out in the suburbs somewhere: http://www.eurasianet.org/node/64458
(I visited Ashgabat literally a few days after they took it down from the original spot, and arrived to see the scaffolding you see in that BBC article)
Not a statue, but Sarah Vowell in Assasination Vacation mentions visiting a shrine to John Wilkes Booth in Port Royal, Virginia.
Ah thanks, I thought I’d lost my basic grasp of my despots.
I’m interested in this, you do realise that Victoria wasn’t actually anything but a figurehead, with no real position of power in the country over the period of her rein?
Sure it was called the Victorian era, but indeed, it wasn’t her sending the troops into the imperial expansion, it was politicians, she sure wasn’t comparable to the likes of Lenin or Stalin…
I suppose her nephews were to blame for World War I, but that’s as much as I thought you could actually pin on her…
She was a figurehead of an empire that created famine in India and Ireland. She was pleased to be fawned over by Disraeli and supported his imperialist aims, but snubbed the anti-expansionist Gladstone as much as possible. She famously worked her red state papers boxes daily, meaning that the millions of deaths were figures she kept in her head.
I don’t get it. Can somebody explain to me what makes Lenin a son of a bitch?
She was born into that and it wasn’t the type of time you refused.
Still wasn’t her making the decisions. Probably had less say than the Prime Ministers Butler.
If she disagreed, it made no difference.
And yet was not responsible.
Look, I’m no fan of monarchy, its generations of inbred fools running countries, but the country was a democracy. Its a diversion here to blame her, when it was the Prime Ministers and party elite who were causing all that death. It’s those names who should be cursed hundreds of years later because they’d have done the same if it was a laughing moron in charge rather than a fat bird.
Kaisers and Tsars had says in those times, those were monarchies. Blame democracy when democracy is to blame.
When I was in the sixth grade, Mr. Falkenstien summed up* ALL *of European history with the following statement:
"That Nee-ko-lie Lenin, he was a Dirty-Bird!"
And that was that.
As to the OP, USC has removed O.J. Simpson’s Heisman trophy from Heritage Hall, as far as I’ve been told. Stuck it in storage, out of sight.
Well he ordered the mass slaughter of his political opponents including unarmed civilians, does that count?
The last Franco statue wasn’t removed from the Spanish mainland until 2008.
I believe the Franco statue – well, the Franco bust – in Santa Cruz de Tenerife (the capital of one of the Canary Islands) is still going strong, though.
I was going to mention this, but I see you beat me to it. Of course there’s also Rhodes Drive, Rhodes Avenue, the Rhodes’ Gift post office on campus, all just in that part of the world. (And there’s Jameson Hall, though I don’t think there are any statues of Jameson around.)
I am sure there are numerous statues of Robert E Lee still standing. There’s an entire state park in Kentucky dedicated to Jefferson Davis.
Go down that road and we might as well include statues of 19th century US Presidents for presiding over a nation which was busily murdering and starving the original inhabitants.
Lots of statues of Andrew Jackson around, most famously perhaps the one in Jackson Square, New Orleans. To native Americans he’s slighly more beloved than Hitler (but did not, repeat, did not have bigger tits than Cher, as evidenced by his bullet ridden chest).
Will you guys quit hijacking this thread? Or at least support your claims by explaining why India, not the UK or Canada or Australia, but the nation I mentioned: India, should keep statues of Queen Victoria standing.
There is a big difference between a Queen with no real power, and the elected president of a democracy.
Just wondering, but are there any statues of hitler anywhere?
Nikolai, huh?..
There’s a statue called “World Peace” close to my home. It was donated to the city of Helsinki by the city of Moscow in 1990, if you can believe it… a textbook example of Socialist realism. Also known colloquially as “Katiskavarkaat”, or The Fish Trap Thieves.
It’s been the subject of quite a lot of discussion over the years - is it a glorification of the Soviet Union or a reminder of its downfall or a recollection of the Finnish government bowing down to the East during the years of Finlandization… Some university students tarred and feathered it in 1991 and someone tried to blow it up in 2010. In a questionnaire organized a few years ago, it gained high marks both in the “loved” and “kill it with fire” categories. Personally I think it’s god-awfully ugly.