# Stealing is always at least one part good **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 13, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046 "2009-01-13T05:45:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jessesheeran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@jessesheeran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessesheeran)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/1 "2009-01-13T05:45:21Z")
wheras killing is can be easily seen to be 100% bad. This has to be catergorized. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/2 "2009-01-13T05:46:40Z")
Lots of people kill. In wars, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/3 "2009-01-13T06:04:48Z")
Some people need killing, therefore some killing needs to be done. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/4 "2009-01-13T06:05:25Z")
Opium carburettor blue discombobulated fish ? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/5 "2009-01-13T06:06:47Z")
I wouldn’t be at all surprised. ---
**Author:** ![jessesheeran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@jessesheeran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessesheeran)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/6 "2009-01-13T06:11:15Z")
well i dont want want to get into a debate about good and evil, or what makes good and evil there was something else OP was going for ---
**Author:** ![jessesheeran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@jessesheeran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessesheeran)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/7 "2009-01-13T06:16:28Z")
i guess i will take the duty of restating it: does stealing always benefit someone? OP needs to be examined. I guess it would follow that when stealing creates more benefit than it takes or destroys or rules out, it is no longer stealing ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/8 "2009-01-13T06:22:15Z")
Stealing doesn’t create benefit. It redistributes it. ---
**Author:** ![jessesheeran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@jessesheeran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessesheeran)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/9 "2009-01-13T06:48:24Z")
so when something is divided into parts, it is better to distribute them in a way that has more benefit. well im really stuck on whether distributing something could ever change the benefit ratio, as post said (speaking of Bryan Ekers) nothing is created speaking of bryan ekers oh and if it does than we should do it, i guess, that was – my thought the skepitcal side of me wants it to be proved that changing the distribution of something could ever change the ratio of benefit. because uh, even if one person was really greedy and didn’t share, it probably would benefit him a lot. i am not defending that guy btw ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/10 "2009-01-13T06:51:35Z")
“Watch dog bark on a hot summer night, kill my landlord, kill my landlord, …” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/11 "2009-01-13T07:10:24Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > “Watch dog bark on a hot summer night, > kill my landlord, kill my landlord, > …” I believe the word is spelled C-I-L-L. ---
**Author:** ![jessesheeran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@jessesheeran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessesheeran)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/12 "2009-01-13T07:15:14Z")
it doesn’t create good it just changes it. but not in quantity or volume i guess and when you say that some people need to be killed you are saying that some people need to be killers, but i don’t think so ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/13 "2009-01-13T07:36:49Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I believe the word is spelled C-I-L-L. Cilling does volume benefit many, with 100% piece of cake. ---
**Author:** ![jessesheeran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@jessesheeran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessesheeran)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/14 "2009-01-13T08:00:23Z")
there was an old internet adage that whoever mentions hitler first kills the thread i just did, (as in there are times when killing is necessary, hitler for example) what is in the parentheses is a fantasy, and that is my contention, now for all time… let it be ---
**Author:** ![jessesheeran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@jessesheeran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessesheeran)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/15 "2009-01-13T08:05:27Z")
if there are reasosns to type… oh yeah… to see more colored lights i guess, so… i was gonna say, that, when you steal you do not create anything new, but you do you not create a benefit where there was none before? Like if a hungry person steals bread, I am not saying they are creating bread neccessarily, but they are filling thier stomachs, which is a benefit that has been \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_-spoiler. i guess im inviting somone to finish this thought feel free to quote my message in your reply ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/16 "2009-01-13T08:13:50Z")
There are reasons that people can derive selfish benefit from killing. If it couldn’t benefit them, they wouldn’t do it. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/17 "2009-01-13T08:58:25Z")
My cat’s breath smells of cat food. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/18 "2009-01-13T08:58:37Z")
> [@jessesheeran](#): > > there was something else OP was going for Yes, I expect there probably was. ---
**Author:** ![seodoa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@seodoa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seodoa)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/19 "2009-01-13T09:04:12Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > My cat’s breath smells of cat food. And I’m Idaho. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046/20 "2009-01-13T09:34:30Z")
> [@jessesheeran](#): > > feel free to quote my message in your reply Done. That’ll be $25 please. I accept PayPal. Hatstand wibble. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stealing-is-always-at-least-one-part-good/481046.md?page=2)