# Steam Winter Sale

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 19, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746 "2013-12-19T18:37:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/121 "2013-12-28T14:28:23Z")

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People keep voting for games other than the one I voted for in the “community choice” part of the sale. That’s fine, but I keep forgetting what I voted for, and might want to go back and buy it anyway. Does anyone know if there’s a way to find out what all was put up for a vote?

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/122 "2013-12-28T14:39:39Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> How do you get all the snow gone  
> Globes in one day? Purchase?
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> For xp, you can do the semi easy parts of that one badge (can’t look up name now). Things like post any random screenshot on your page, take a survey etc. I think I’m level 10 from not really trying.

Yeah, that one is “Community Ambassador,” and I did that too since I was further away from 5th.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/123 "2013-12-28T16:10:18Z")

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Dirt 3 is one of the flash sales for another 2 hours, $6. If you like racing games it’s really fun, and I’d organize more dirt 3 games if people wanted to play it. Looks like they removed dirt 2 - probably because GFWL is shutting down, and they’re going to update Dirt 3 to work with steamworks but not dirt 2 I guess. It’s too bad, dirt 2 is my favorite racing game ever.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/124 "2013-12-28T23:57:46Z")

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You get a snow globe card every time you make a badge from OTHER games trading cards, for the record. So start playing a game that has trading cards (there’s currently over 100-200 of them) and when you can make a badge, it will give you one globe card as a reward (among other things)

Idle Thoughts  
(level 21 on Steam)

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**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/125 "2013-12-29T00:03:11Z")

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Just diving in for those still on the fence. Get Orcs must die (both of them). Why?

Do you enjoy fun? Do you find Pleasure pleasurable? If you do you will enjoy Orcs must die.

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/126 "2013-12-29T08:12:03Z")

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Is SimCity worth US$5? Metacritic suggests not (64 for critics, 2.1 user score), but maybe if the early days problems are sorted out?

Also: I’m not a fan of Orcs Must Die II, despite liking tower defense.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/127 "2013-12-29T08:42:16Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> I’m currently missing Snow Globes #4 and #9. I have extras of #1 and #6. I’m happy to trade!

There’s actually a forum thread for that on Steam. I needed two globes and had two spares. Had them both within about 30 seconds through their automated trading system.

Click “Find out more” on the store page. Click “Get and introduction to trading cards” under “What are trading cards?” Join the “Steam Trading Card Group” and click on the “Snow Globe Trade Center 2.0” thread, which should be the top of the popular discussions. First post tells you how to set it all up.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/128 "2013-12-29T08:43:58Z")

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> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> Is SimCity worth US$5? Metacritic suggests not (64 for critics, 2.1 user score), but maybe if the early days problems are sorted out?
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> Also: I’m not a fan of Orcs Must Die II, despite liking tower defense.

Where did you find this for $5? The one on Steam is SimCity 4, which gets pretty good reviews, 84 and 8.7 on MetaCritic. I enjoyed it.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/129 "2013-12-29T09:03:03Z")

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> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> Is SimCity worth US$5? Metacritic suggests not (64 for critics, 2.1 user score), but maybe if the early days problems are sorted out?

From what I have read, the problems run far deeper than that. The abysmal launch merely hid the true scope of their failure.

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/130 "2013-12-29T09:10:00Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> Where did you find this for $5? The one on Steam is SimCity 4, which gets pretty good reviews, 84 and 8.7 on MetaCritic. I enjoyed it.

Nowhere, I was mistaken. Only place I could find SimCity 5 for download was the Origin site, and they want AU$60 for the deluxe. I would have considered it for US$5.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/131 "2013-12-29T10:07:04Z")

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> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> Nowhere, I was mistaken. Only place I could find SimCity 5 for download was the Origin site, and they want AU$60 for the deluxe. I would have considered it for US$5.

If you’re interested in trying out a city builder, SimCity 4 is a pretty decent place to start at that price.

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/132 "2013-12-29T10:36:01Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> If you’re interested in trying out a city builder, SimCity 4 is a pretty decent place to start at that price.

Thanks, sounds like good advice.

I got Beatbuddy: Tale of the Guardians from the current flash sale. I’m not big on platformers but my daughter thought it looked cool.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/133 "2013-12-29T18:29:56Z")

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> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> Is SimCity worth US$5?

The original SimCity is worth $5, if you can get it to run on a modern O/S.

The “reboot” SimCity isn’t worth it even if you paid me $100 – mostly because it’s non-Steam, but it also totally sucks.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/134 "2013-12-29T18:32:06Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> The original SimCity is worth $5, if you can get it to run on a modern O/S.
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> The “reboot” SimCity isn’t worth it even if you paid me $100 – mostly because it’s non-Steam, but it also totally sucks.

Not to hijack this thread away from its purpose, but what problems face the new Simcity other than its DRM/always-on internet thingy?

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/135 "2013-12-29T18:54:47Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Not to hijack this thread away from its purpose, but what problems face the new Simcity other than its DRM/always-on internet thingy?

The AI is apparently shit, for starters. If you had half a dozen fire stations scattered around your city, they’d all send their fire truck to the same fire, then send them all to the next fire, and so on.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/136 "2013-12-29T22:13:38Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Not to hijack this thread away from its purpose, but what problems face the new Simcity other than its DRM/always-on internet thingy?

Other than the AI mentioned above (check out [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g418BSF6XBQ) vid for abysmal pathfinding), what turned me off it is the tiny maps compared to SimCity 4. Likewise you can’t morph the terrain to create any type of map you desire like you could in 4, if you want to recreate your own home town for instance.

Being treated as a criminal by default by EA is just one of the games many problems, I wouldn’t touch it with a bargepole. Despite being a decade old SimCity 4 is the superior game no matter how you look at it; I’ve got it off Steam and it’s running just fine on Windows 7 64 bit. I did have high hopes for Cities XL Platinum which was on sale earlier, but sadly it’s apparently a buggy broken mess. Still better than the new SimCity.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/137 "2013-12-29T23:14:50Z")

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> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#):
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> I did have high hopes for Cities XL Platinum which was on sale earlier, but sadly it’s apparently a buggy broken mess.

I’ve bought several games during this sale, and every one I’ve tried has had bugs that made it unplayable, that were only solved after trying various remedies found on Google, that I would never have thought of myself.

What the hell did people do before the internet?

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**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/138 "2013-12-30T00:11:47Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> What the hell did people do before the internet?

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/Z3Ohzj6.jpeg "How game patches were done before the Internet") ](https://imgur.com/Z3Ohzj6)

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/139 "2013-12-30T02:52:06Z")

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Wizardry 8 is on sale for $2.49

OR

You can buy Wizardry 6, 7, **and 8** for $2.24.

[Check it out here.](http://store.steampowered.com/app/245450/)

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steam-winter-sale/676746/140 "2013-12-30T03:28:34Z")

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> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#):
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> Other than the AI mentioned above (check out [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g418BSF6XBQ) vid for abysmal pathfinding), what turned me off it is the tiny maps compared to SimCity 4. Likewise you can’t morph the terrain to create any type of map you desire like you could in 4, if you want to recreate your own home town for instance.
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> Being treated as a criminal by default by EA is just one of the games many problems, I wouldn’t touch it with a bargepole. Despite being a decade old SimCity 4 is the superior game no matter how you look at it; I’ve got it off Steam and it’s running just fine on Windows 7 64 bit. I did have high hopes for Cities XL Platinum which was on sale earlier, but sadly it’s apparently a buggy broken mess. Still better than the new SimCity.

I bought it at launch.

Regret it immensely.

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