# Steeler bars, any other team bars? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [December 19, 2004, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637 "2004-12-19T11:01:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gerb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3bc359/32.png) [@gerb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gerb)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/1 "2004-12-19T11:01:06Z")
Pittsburgh Steeler fans are known for being die hards. Many of my friends and family have moved far from the Steel City and have had no problem finding bars and pubs that cater to Steeler fans during the NFL season. Some cities, even smaller ones, have 2 such places. Many of these establishments go as far as importing Iron City Beer and other hometown products. My question is this, is this just a Steelers phenomenon or is this common to every team. Could I find, say, a “Cardinals bar” in St Paul, Minn. or a “Cowboys” bar in Boston, Mass. ---
**Author:** ![Trailer\_Park\_Casanova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@Trailer\_Park\_Casanova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trailer_Park_Casanova)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/2 "2004-12-19T11:23:18Z")
Try this link: > **[Las Vegas News | Breaking News & Headlines | Las Vegas Review-Journal](https://www.reviewjournal.com/)** > > The Las Vegas Review-Journal is Nevada's most trusted source for local news, Las Vegas sports, business news, gaming news, entertainment news and more. search: living section/party time/football bars. Vegas is full of them. Just about every team has several, including even the Lions. Most the bars run drink or food specials. Some as good as Brat buffets for $1.50. The Steelers have an interesting following that hangs out at Bob Taylor Ranch House., 6250 Rio Vista St. Bob Taylors is the last of "Old ‘Vegas. Crusty ol ladies for cocktail waitress’ in black and white uniforms with scratchy smoker voiced greetings like: “Hi Ya Sugar”. Good, reasonably priced food, $1 shooters when the Steelers are in the red zone, beers for 2 bones, give a ways like shirts and free lunches. Good place to hang out for a Steelers game when you’re in 'Vegas. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/3 "2004-12-19T14:03:39Z")
As a along-time Vegan I’m glad to hear Bob Taylor’s is still alive. It wasn’t cheap steak, but boy was it good steak. When I first moved there, from the edge of town to Bob’s was a 15 minute drive through the desert over barely 2-lane blacktop roads and the last half mile was dirt. No signs anywhere; you had to know it was out there, somewhere, in the blackness. Please don’t tell me he’s flanked by a 7-11 and a Payless ShoeSource now. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/4 "2004-12-19T14:21:51Z")
> [@gerb](#): > > … > My question is this, is this just a Steelers phenomenon or is this common to every team. Could I find, say, a “Cardinals bar” in St Paul, Minn. or a “Cowboys” bar in Boston, Mass. This is far from definitive but I have never heard of any such phenomenon in the Boston area. There are probably a couple of bars in the area which are known for being sympathetic to NY Giants or NY Jets fans, but I can’t picture a bar in this (local) sports obsessed town making money catering to only one other NFL team…the locals would torch the place. Somewhat related story: a friend of mine was a longtime NY Giants fan living in the Boston area…on Sundays she used to have to drive down 95 until she got within range of the NY radio stations. She would park in one of the rest areas and listen to the game on her car radio. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/5 "2004-12-19T18:10:01Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > As a along-time Vegan I’m glad to hear Bob Taylor’s is still alive. It wasn’t cheap steak, but boy was it good steak. Vegan? Steak? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/6 "2004-12-19T18:32:41Z")
Duffy’s in Chicago is a (University of) Michigan bar. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/7 "2004-12-19T19:03:53Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Vegan? Steak? 😕 A capital-V Vegan is a resident of Las Vegas, most of whom are vigorously carnivorous. A lowercase-v vegan is a nutcase that doesn’t eat food, but rather the fodder fed to food. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/8 "2004-12-19T19:09:16Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > A capital-V Vegan is a resident of Las Vegas, most of whom are vigorously carnivorous. A lowercase-v vegan is a nutcase that doesn’t eat food, but rather the fodder fed to food. This confused me for a minute as well, although I eventually figured it out. Kind of odd, really. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/9 "2004-12-19T19:14:10Z")
FWIW, in San Diego I’ve never heard of a bar that exclusively caters to any non-San Diego team. You could score big money on a Bears, Giants, Jets, Dolphins, etc. bar, I’d imagine, as San Diego is mostly made up of people-from-somewhere-else. (Although that’s changing over the generations as families settle here.) A Broncos bar would do well, but only when the Chargers are doing badly (ie most of the time), and it would mostly be populated by people who’ve never set foot in Colorado. Anyway, there may be some, but as I was in middle school/high school when I lived in SD I wouldn’t have heard much about any of the bar scene. In Tucson, the bars are _all_ Wildcats bars. Much as I love the place, _I_ wouldn’t want to live there if I weren’t involved with the school in some way. ---
**Author:** ![Rex\_Fenestrarum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rex_fenestrarum/32/7265_2.png) [@Rex\_Fenestrarum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Fenestrarum)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/10 "2004-12-19T20:34:33Z")
Gosh, do you folks get out much? I’ve never been to a city that _didn’t_ have a lot of various NFL bars. Even in my (relatively small) new home city of Charlotte, I know of a “Browns” bar, a “Patriots” bar and a “Packers” bar. Back in my home city of Atlanta, the lifestyle section of the newspaper always has a list of the various “fan bars” in the city at the beginning of the season. I don’t know if _every_ NFL team has a bar in Atlanta, but the list is always pretty long. _(FWIW, the Steelers have at least two bars in Atlanta, but I’ve only been to the Mellow Mushroom in Buckhead go get my Steeler on._ I used to know of a website that had listings of the various bars in various states, but can’t find it at them moment. However, [this page](http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/steelerbars_list.asp) from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette lists 245 “Steeler bars” in 45 states. ---
**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/11 "2004-12-19T23:32:05Z")
> [@Rex Fenestrarum](#): > > Gosh, do you folks get out much? I’ve never been to a city that _didn’t_ have a lot of various NFL bars. Even in my (relatively small) new home city of Charlotte, I know of a “Browns” bar, a “Patriots” bar and a “Packers” bar. Back in my home city of Atlanta, the lifestyle section of the newspaper always has a list of the various “fan bars” in the city at the beginning of the season. I don’t know if _every_ NFL team has a bar in Atlanta, but the list is always pretty long. _(FWIW, the Steelers have at least two bars in Atlanta, but I’ve only been to the Mellow Mushroom in Buckhead go get my Steeler on._ > > I used to know of a website that had listings of the various bars in various states, but can’t find it at them moment. However, [this page](http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/steelerbars_list.asp) from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette lists 245 “Steeler bars” in 45 states. Yeah, I used to get out a fair bit, and no, I’ve still never heard of such a thing around here. Your list has two “Steeler’s Bars” in Boston but that might just mean you won’t get punched out if you go in there wearing Black and Gold. One of the bars on that list prominently mentions the European Soccer games they show on TV there, and several reviews of it talk about the local microbrews on tap…no mention of the Steelers or Iron City beer like the OP is talking about though: [http://www.roggies.com/](http://www.roggies.com/) So you’re telling me that there has to be a bar in Boston that caters to Arizona Cardinal’s fans, and that for 17 years I’ve managed to avoid reading the appropriate section of _The Boston Globe_ that will tell me where it is? ---
**Author:** ![Rex\_Fenestrarum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rex_fenestrarum/32/7265_2.png) [@Rex\_Fenestrarum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Fenestrarum)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/12 "2004-12-20T00:09:32Z")
> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#): > > Your list has two “Steeler’s Bars” in Boston but that might just mean you won’t get punched out if you go in there wearing Black and Gold. No, I mean bars that actually _cater_ to fans of other teams. Not just “bars where you won’t get punched out”. Bars full of [insert team name here] fans… > [@Laughing Lagomorph](#): > > So you’re telling me that there has to be a bar in Boston that caters to Arizona Cardinal’s fans, and that for 17 years I’ve managed to avoid reading the appropriate section of _The Boston Globe_ that will tell me where it is? Dude, I doubt there are two bars in _Phoenix_ that cater to Arizona Cardinals fans. 😃 Seriously, as I said, the _Atlanta Journal_ (and perhaps the local “lifestyle rag”, _Creative Loafing_) usually run lists around the start of football season where you can go to catch the games. The _only_ people at _most_ of these places on Sunday are fans (depending of course, on how your team is doing). I would imagine that any Miami Dolphins bar outside of South Florida has quietly put away all their posters and is now a “Utah Jazz” bar. heh. I don’t know if _all_ NFL teams have bars in any given city, but the Atlanta list I remember _was_ pretty lengthy, and I remember wondering how many Seattle fans there were in Atlanta. I don’t know where you got the idea that there _must_ be a Cardinals bar in the Boston area - I never said there _had_ to be a bar for any team - but you just seemed oblivious to the idea that maybe, just maybe enough people in that city like team X enough to congregate in a certain bar. Just for kicks, I found last week’s _Creative Loafing_ (there’s a Charlotte edition too) and saw an ad for “Tavern on the Tracks” on page 73 that announces that they are the “official home of the Bills Backers”. I know that used to be more ads, but it’s late in the season and football’s hardly mentioned in the ads these days. But at least it’s not just an “Atlanta thing”. I’ve been to a few of these places. Sometimes these bars are so “basic” that they simply have a single Dallas Cowboys poster on the wall and the game on the TV. Other times, the bar might be the “home bar” of the local fan club and might (or might not) have team regalia all over the walls. Some even have special offers, like chartered “booze busses” to local games or even travel packages to the team’s home city if the NFL team in question doesn’t come to town that year. Usually (but not always) in cases like these, the bar owner is a fan of the team too. I know, for example, that in 1996 (I think, whenever the last time the Steelers played the Falcons in Atlanta during the regular season) the Buckhead Mellow Mushroom offered a $75 package that got you a game ticket, beer and pizza before the game and beer on the chartered bus that took you to and from the game. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/13 "2004-12-20T00:54:42Z")
Cleveland Browns bars are everywhere. The world wide organization is called the Browns Backers. There’s probably one [near you](http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/fans/backers/tracker.php) . Here in Denver we meet at a bar called The Retreat. It’s wall to wall Browns fans, with the Browns game on the big screen and about half the small screens. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/14 "2004-12-20T01:43:31Z")
> [@Laughing Lagomorph](#): > > Somewhat related story: a friend of mine was a longtime NY Giants fan living in the Boston area…on Sundays she used to have to drive down 95 until she got within range of the NY radio stations. She would park in one of the rest areas and listen to the game on her car radio. And her number is…? ---
**Author:** ![Rex\_Fenestrarum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rex_fenestrarum/32/7265_2.png) [@Rex\_Fenestrarum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Fenestrarum)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/15 "2004-12-20T02:12:26Z")
According to the link that **Fugazi** provided, the local Boston “Browns Bar” is: Conner Larkin’s 329 Huntington Avenue Cleveland Browns fans are legendary for their organization. They are far more organized - in terms of fan clubs, having “Browns Bars”, etc. - than just about any other group of fans. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/16 "2004-12-20T02:33:29Z")
> [@fetus](#): > > FWIW, in San Diego I’ve never heard of a bar that exclusively caters to any non-San Diego team. When I lived in San Diego, I lived in a place for a year that was right around the corner from a bar/restaurant called Sluggo’s. It was Chicago style food that was packed whenever Da Bears played. The best chili fries in town and great hot dogs. You should have seen it when the Padres and the Cubs were in the NLCS. They had to put TVs in the parking lot. Sadly Sluggo’s is no more but I would be very suprised if there wasn’t any other place like that in America’s Finest City. Haj ---
**Author:** ![jimmmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/73ab20/32.png) [@jimmmy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimmmy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/17 "2004-12-20T03:04:47Z")
Mr Days Sports Rock Cafe in D.C. is a “Packers bar” The Rock in D.C. shows all the games but there is usuually a high number of Dolphin fans. I know that fronm this website that goes to the OP [http://www.phins.com/bars.php](http://www.phins.com/bars.php) Obligatory hometown paper link showing where to go in town for the different teams [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6372-2004Sep8.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6372-2004Sep8.html) ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/18 "2004-12-20T03:11:51Z")
I could be mistaken, but I’m pretty sure that Philadelphia has at least one or two ‘Eagles’ bars. Also, our newfangled baseball stadium there has a bar-and-grill restaurant. I guess (if the Phillies weren’t so horrendously pitiful) that could count. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/19 "2004-12-20T04:42:34Z")
I live in the Fort Worth burbs and know of a “Packers” bar in the area. On the college football front–and I’m sure when it comes to college teams these things are less common and much more regional–there is a “Sooners” bar here, too. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2004, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637/20 "2004-12-20T16:22:49Z")
Hilton Head, South Carolina has Steeler bars that are more intense than any such bar I go to in Pittsburgh. And better looking barmaids:D [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steeler-bars-any-other-team-bars/280637.md?page=2)