# Steely Dan Fan is either a troll or a stupid fanatic

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 23, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360 "2014-03-23T14:53:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/41 "2014-03-25T12:34:01Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Are you talking about Commissar?

How can you mix up Falco and Steely Dan?

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**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/42 "2014-03-25T12:47:27Z")

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I will register as a fan of Steely Dan ( the band ). All really good stuff to listen and you have to like a song with lyrics like “”…gonna wear no socks and shoes, with nothing to do but feed all the kangaroos…".

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**Author:** ![MostlyUseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MostlyUseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyUseless)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/43 "2014-03-25T13:10:32Z")

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Steely Dan certainly doesn’t hold the title for the dumbest lyrics at all. A quick google reveals this…

I hope you know i pack a chainsaw/ And skin your ass raw/ And if my day keeps going this way i just might break somethin’/ Tonight/ I pack a chainsaw/ And skin your ass raw/ And if my day keeps going this way i just might break somethin’/ Tonight/ I pack a chainsaw/ And skin your ass raw/ And if my day keeps going this way i just might break your/ Fuckin’ face tonight

Limp Bizkit

Not the greatest but Steely Dan is still great.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/44 "2014-03-25T13:19:15Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> But isn’t this in itself a flaw in true Marxism? If it’s so easily subverted by false forms of itself how can it function? Marx said that the triumph of his system was inevitable but we see that it didn’t even triumph in a supposedly friendly environment.

Ironically, Marxism doesn’t seem to take into account the existence of Marxism- that is, how a conscious awareness of the tenets of Marxism would alter the evolution of society. Didn’t Asimov address something like this in his Foundation novels?

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**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/45 "2014-03-25T13:26:47Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Are you talking about Commissar?

I’m sure there was an even wilder one before \*\*Commissar \*\*but damned if I can remember the name.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/46 "2014-03-25T13:56:19Z")

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I haven’t read any posts from **Steely Dan Fan** yet, so I’m not inclined at this point to give him any grief.

No static at all, in fact…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/47 "2014-03-25T15:10:29Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> How can you mix up Falco and Steely Dan?

I guess I didn’t Just Say No enough.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/48 "2014-03-25T16:33:42Z")

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So, we’re saying that Steely Dan was the lost Marx brother sent to revive communism through hidden messages in his music?

I’m not seeing how that leads one to believe that a daring daylight robbery of Fort Knox on elephant back is a good idea, but I’m also not seeing how it shows that it _isn’t_ a good idea.

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**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/49 "2014-03-25T17:00:26Z")

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I think the user name “Steely Dan Fan” is inherently a troll.

–Signed, Soooo not a Steely Dan Fan

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**Author:** ![Athabasca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Athabasca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athabasca)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/50 "2014-03-25T18:14:55Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> So you’re not a **Steely Dan Fan** fan?

I don’t understand anyone who isn’t a dildo fan, not at all. 🙂

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/51 "2014-03-25T20:49:08Z")

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> [@Athabasca](#):
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> I don’t understand anyone who isn’t a dildo fan, not at all. 🙂

It was a strap-on, not a dildo.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/52 "2014-03-25T22:46:10Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Are you talking about Commissar?

Actually no.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/53 "2014-03-26T00:23:41Z")

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> [@Athabasca](#):
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> I don’t understand anyone who isn’t a dildo fan, not at all. 🙂

They’re just not into me.

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**Author:** ![Athabasca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Athabasca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athabasca)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/54 "2014-03-26T02:19:05Z")

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> [@For You](#):
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> It was a strap-on, not a dildo.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/55 "2014-03-26T05:43:20Z")

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> [@For You](#):
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> It was a strap-on, not a dildo.

Isn’t a strap-on just a dildo with a harness?

And at what point do we declare this thread to have officially gone off topic?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/56 "2014-03-26T06:33:49Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> And at what point do we declare this thread to have officially gone off topic?

When the Central Committee proclaims it so.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/57 "2014-03-26T15:39:13Z")

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> [@For You](#):
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> It was a strap-on, not a dildo.

Potato, podildo…

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/58 "2014-03-26T16:59:11Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Here’s what you _should_ be listening to:
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> [Magnum Opus.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW21tcSdvhU&feature=kp)
> 
> Fuck Steely Dan.

Can’t I enjoy both?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/59 "2014-03-26T18:46:14Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Isn’t a strap-on just a dildo with a harness?

As I understand it, strap-ons usually have a posterior extension designed for clitoral stimulation, so that the user can, I guess, participate in/enjoy the experience. A dildo is just any random phallus, with or without a vibration mechanism.

It might matter based on what Steely Dan III was used for in the book, though, by that point, there is little or no shock-value left for it (as I recall, the first two Steely Dans had been broken by the other person).

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steely-dan-fan-is-either-a-troll-or-a-stupid-fanatic/684360/60 "2014-03-26T19:23:49Z")

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> [@For You](#):
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> (as I recall, the first two Steely Dans had been broken by the other person).

Sort of.

> [@William S. Burroughs](#):
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> “What happen to Steely Dan I?”
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> “He was torn in two by a bull dyke. She could cave in a lead pipe.”
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> “And Steely Dan II?”
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> “Chewed to bits by a famished candiru in the Upper Baboonsasshole. And don’t say ‘wheeeeeeee!’ this time.”

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