# Stefanik has said she'd betray American democracy: how the fuck is this not front page news? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 9, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367 "2024-02-09T20:27:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367/21 "2024-02-10T16:06:30Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > > > Trump is better for ratings. > > although its hard to enjoy the better ratings for the gulag Trump’s planning to set up for unsupportive journalists. Eh, they’ll mostly fall in line under the Trump regime. That’s where the money is, and that’s what their bosses will demand. Maybe there’ll be an Underground Railroad II for journalists retaining integrity to escape to Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367/22 "2024-02-10T22:17:13Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > The likely future candidate for VP That’s why it’s not being amplified yet. Says who? You? Conventional wisdom? Polls? If people are arguing that we may not want to give Trump himself coverage of outrageous remarks, how about random politicians on the basis of, “they’re not VP yet, nor has their name really been uttered by Trump, but we’re pretty sure they will be”? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367/23 "2024-02-11T13:37:35Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So she’s counting on the MAGA rubes not knowing she will have no power to change the certification of the 2024 election? That’s our interpretation of the law. It’s not the interpretation of a lot of the MAGAs with actual political offices, like Empty G and Boebert. If Trump manages a win in 2024, I can’t imagine them losing the House, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they win back the Senate. Those are the people charged with enforcing the law. If they interpret it so that the VP has this power, who will stop them? A lot of them voted just this way the last time, remember, even after the mob spent hours tromping around the building looking for them. Send it to the Supreme Court? The Supreme Court dominated by GOP picks? Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367/24 "2024-02-11T14:24:54Z")
She won’t be the presiding officer for the certification of the election of 2024 - part of what’s being certified is HER possible election as VP. Those results will be certified by Congress with Kamala Harris as the presiding officer. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367/25 "2024-02-11T14:36:51Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Trump clone grown in a test tube Gonna need a vat. A big one. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367/26 "2024-02-11T16:10:01Z")
Representative Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) doesn’t see the situation in the same way that Stefanik does: > **[Crenshaw on Stefanik’s claim she could decertify election if VP: ‘Totally wrong’](https://news.yahoo.com/crenshaw-stefanik-claim-she-could-153504471.html)** > > Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas.) disputed House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik’s (R-N.Y.) claim that she would have decertified the 2020 election if she had been vice president, calling it “totally wrong.” Reacting to her comment in an... > [@](#): > > “The only reason I’m not worried is because what she’s saying is so completely incorrect,” Crenshaw told CNN’s Dana Bash Friday. “The Constitution gives you no power — you, being the vice president — gives you no power to decertify the election. It’s very clear.” > > “I mean, we could pull it up on the screen and read it. Mike Pence read it, and he came to the conclusion that he has no power to decertify election,” he continued. “The word ‘certify’ is not even in there. So, this idea that there even is this mechanism for Congress to certify or decertify an election is just — it’s totally wrong.” Nice, Dan. Now do Trump. Tell us about the guy who signed off on this little self-coup plan?! ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367/27 "2024-03-11T12:28:58Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Quite valueable, though there is debate whether it is vomit or poo. My bet is on poo. I wonder who the sailor was who said: “lookee here! Whale poop! I think I smear some on my wife.” Speaking of a piece of poop, Stefanik has shown that she has no limit on how she will go in order to be the veep pick. This should be a lot bigger story than it is but the media seems to be so tired of the Republican anti-democracy quote du jour that they don’t cover it. But they never seem to tire of “OMFG! Biden is old!”. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367/28 "2024-03-11T16:28:34Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Representative Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) doesn’t see the situation in the same way that Stefanik does: The messed up thing about this, is a GOP politician saying “The VP shouldn’t overthrow the results of an election and appoint a dictator” is basically them abdicating any possibility of joining the next GOP administration (and 100% definitely ruling out any chance of being VP). ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367/29 "2024-03-12T03:05:17Z")
And sure enough… JD Vance was floated as a possible Trump VP and, on cue, utters the requisite commitment to overthrowing democracy: > **[Republican Senator Says He’d Totally Do a Coup if He Gets the Chance](https://newrepublic.com/post/178742/jd-vance-embrace-coup-desperate-attempt-trump-vp?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)** > > Senator J.D. Vance is openly embracing the idea of a coup in a pathetic bid to become Donald Trump’s vice president. This really should be bigger news. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367/30 "2024-03-12T04:52:05Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > This really should be bigger news. All of this should be bigger news. They are literally telling us they plan on stealing the election and instituting a dictatorship on day one. They are literally saying this aloud. And in the meantime Trump has finished his not so hostile takeover of the Republican party with what happened at the RNC. Buckle up folks this is going to be a very bumpy ride. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stefanik-has-said-shed-betray-american-democracy-how-the-fuck-is-this-not-front-page-news/997367.md?page=1)