# Stellaris - 4X/Grand Strategy Hybrid from Paradox

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 14, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001 "2016-03-14T18:59:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/161 "2017-01-12T15:28:39Z")

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With respect to the 1.5 patch, Martin Alward said:

“It’s a while away, that’s all I can say right now.”

What exactly does that mean? Who knows? But I think we can certainly assume it won’t be this month and likely not February either.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/162 "2017-01-13T01:25:50Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> With respect to the 1.5 patch, Martin Alward said:
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> “It’s a while away, that’s all I can say right now.”
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> What exactly does that mean? Who knows? But I think we can certainly assume it won’t be this month and likely not February either.

That’s a bummer ☹ but I’d rather they take their time and make it a really amazing one.

Any word on whether it’s coming with new DLC?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/163 "2017-01-13T01:30:58Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> Any word on whether it’s coming with new DLC?

[Yes, it is](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-56-ascension-perks.994061/).

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> Today we’ll be talking about a feature that was hinted at in last dev diary, Ascension Perks. Ascension Perks are related to the Traditions and Unity system, but is a paid feature in the (unannounced) expansion accompanying the 1.5 ‘Banks’ update, rather than a part of the update itself. Those without the expansion will get full access to the Traditions and Unity features, but not to the Ascension Perks themselves.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/164 "2017-01-13T14:22:11Z")

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Ooooh, liking those end game perks. Become the Borg.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/165 "2017-01-13T16:40:48Z")

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I agree. Patch 1.5, with the DLC, looks like it will be the breakout point for Stellaris, which in my view has been a lot of fun so far. I’m sitting at about 300 hours played so I’ve gotten value for my dollars. I will get the DLC with near certainty.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/166 "2017-02-27T17:46:04Z")

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I promised I would update this thread when the 1.5 patch and DLC release date was announced. Well, I may be designing killer robots to end human civilization but I keep my promises.

April 6th 2017.

[https://www.paradoxplaza.com/stellaris-utopia/](https://www.paradoxplaza.com/stellaris-utopia/)

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/167 "2017-02-27T19:53:11Z")

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I am really looking forward to this Utopia expansion. Population management will be easier (finer controls) and more challenging (harder to find the optimum). I like the Victoria II vibe.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/168 "2017-02-28T14:26:26Z")

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No changes to the irritating war system? Guess I’ll wait for 1.6. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/169 "2017-02-28T15:11:33Z")

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I’ve just discovered the Star Trek: New Horizons mod. Kinda cool! They replaced some of the ship model/sprites, and the UI audio cues with the LCARS audio cues.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/170 "2017-03-30T18:55:46Z")

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The official 1.5 patch notes have been posted!

> **[Stellaris Dev Diary #67: Banks Patch Notes](https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/stellaris-dev-diary-67-banks-patch-notes.1008247/)**
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> Welcome to another dev diary for Stellaris! Today we're simply going to post the patch notes for the Banks update and Utopia expansion that are coming out in a week. Click the 'spoiler' button to view them and enjoy!

Some nice UI and QoL improvements on top of all the other banks/expansion goodness. After the meh-ness of Mass Effect: Andromeda, I’m really looking for my sci-fi itch to be scratched with the Expansion and update.

Just one more week!!!

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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/171 "2017-03-31T17:48:47Z")

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Lots of nice stuff coming with that patch. Maybe it’s odd, but one point I’m most excited about is:

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> Food is now stored and distributed empire-wide instead of being local to individual planets. When food reaches the empire storage cap, surplus food contributes to increased Pop growth across the empire.

In other words, your built-up core worlds should be able to contribute to the growth of your frontier colonies without any micromanaging.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/172 "2017-03-31T20:12:37Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> Lots of nice stuff coming with that patch. Maybe it’s odd, but one point I’m most excited about is:
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> In other words, your built-up core worlds should be able to contribute to the growth of your frontier colonies without any micromanaging.

And some new strategic considerations to make as well. Do you store the food in case war messes up your production, or let it flow and get that growth bonus?

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/173 "2017-04-03T20:20:37Z")

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Youtubers got their ditty mitts on the update and Expansion Eary!

Going to check out Marzobazir and hopefully Quill, if he puts up anything tonight.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/174 "2017-04-04T13:54:17Z")

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The new Mechanist perk - which lets you start with the ability to create robot pops, has me hunkering for a Quarian (from Mass Effect) playthrough! I’ll see if I can make history repeat itself.

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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/175 "2017-04-04T15:43:33Z")

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I’m intrigued by the new diplomacy options. You can actually set your race to be “fanatical purifiers” like how some npc races already are. It makes you unable to conduct (meaningful) diplomacy, but gives you a combat bonus. Might be handy if you were going to play a xenocidial race anyway. There’s also an option to be a hive mind race, which should have some interesting options.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/176 "2017-04-04T17:05:38Z")

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I am very excited for the expansion pack. I’m trying to clear up everything I need to do so I can play on Thursday (and maybe Friday).

The only thing I worry about is that Paradox DLC and patches tend to be buggy. They really need to get a tighter grip on their QA. But crossing my fingers that it will be rock solid right out of the gate.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/177 "2017-04-04T17:10:35Z")

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This should be a great update to the game. I’ve been holding off playing for a month or two, so I’m eager to get back into it again.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/178 "2017-04-04T17:12:46Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> The only thing I worry about is that Paradox DLC and patches tend to be buggy. They really need to get a tighter grip on their QA. But crossing my fingers that it will be rock solid right out of the gate.

I usually wait until the first patch to play a “real” campaign. I just fiddle around with the new mechanics and tweak my mods until then.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/179 "2017-04-04T17:34:28Z")

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I’m amused at how we’ll be able to process xenos for food. Maybe my people don’t recognize xenos as sentient. Maybe they _do_, but eat the meat of sentients as a status symbol. Some of the very wealthy eat only the meat of sentient xenos who were fed only other sentient xenos.

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stellaris-4x-grand-strategy-hybrid-from-paradox/749001/180 "2017-04-04T22:56:41Z")

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You can be a real son of a bitch in this game 🙂

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