# Steophan- engage in argument with cites and facts rather than unsupported belief. Stop running away. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 8, 2015, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515 "2015-03-08T09:41:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/61 "2015-03-09T04:02:50Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Just where is this discussion going, and when will it get out of the Seventies? Hey, **aldiboronti** took it all the way back to the [Thirties](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Rascal_You). (And I’m glad I scanned the thread before posting the same joke.) ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/62 "2015-03-09T04:17:47Z")
Since there seem to be a lot of Funkateers in this thread, can I suggest you catch the latest incarnation of P-Funk? It’s close, but very different from what we’ve had for the past ten to fifteen years. Of course no Belita or Shider (holy cow, it’s been five years since Shider passed), but Kendra, Kim and a few other voices have gotten off the mothership. Sativa still does her ‘Somthin’ Stank’, and his grandson has gone from one- or two-off songs to a larger role. Plus, there’s a eleven or twelve year old kid who knocks Maggot Brain out of the park. PLus, they’ve got a new album out that’s pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/63 "2015-03-09T04:40:29Z")
> [@Pjen](#): > > I should point out that I have decided to not respond on this thread to anyone other than Steophan. > > Do feel free to comment but I am only going to engage in debate on the issue with Steophan. Interesting tactic to adopt in a thread you started to pit somebody else for “running away”. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/64 "2015-03-09T15:42:01Z")
> [@Pjen](#): > > I should point out that I have decided to not respond on this thread to anyone other than Steophan. > > Do feel free to comment but I am only going to engage in debate on the issue with Steophan. Any chance you can take it to PMs then? I don’t think this board is really your personal email service. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/65 "2015-03-09T15:46:04Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Any chance you can take it to PMs then? I don’t think this board is really your personal email service. I clearly should have read on and found out that Pjen is a scaredy poo pants. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/66 "2015-03-09T16:35:18Z")
Parliament is supreme because the whole band hits on the one, there’s no constitutional question to be had. If there are people in the UK that don’t get this, then I’m beginning to understand why my ancestors saw fit to leave there. Nice reverse pitting, guys. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/67 "2015-03-09T16:54:32Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Any chance you can take it to PMs then? I don’t think this board is really your personal email service. Well, the OP has since stated that he had put the _only person he was willing to speak to_ on ignore (Post 25), so I think we’re pretty much done here. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/68 "2015-03-09T17:32:40Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > …then I’m beginning to understand why my ancestors saw fit to leave there… Why did the snakes leave Ireland? Why stay? ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/69 "2015-03-09T19:13:14Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > …You’re an obsessive, prejudiced, and multimaniacal poster. You believe that you, and only you, possess the Truth. You do not debate, you preach. Any thread you appear in, especially the ones you start, is ruined by your inability to conceive that anyone else might have something worthwhile to say… Congratulations, you’ve just described every poster here. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/70 "2015-03-09T20:21:25Z")
Which just shows how much **Pjen** had to do to stand out. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/71 "2015-03-09T20:51:56Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Which just shows how much **Pjen** had to do to stand out. It’s a fair cop… ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/72 "2015-03-09T22:47:32Z")
But society’s to blame. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/73 "2015-03-10T00:49:52Z")
I didn’t kill grandpa! SOCIETY killed grandpa! ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515/74 "2015-03-10T17:26:19Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > I think she mentioned sometime that she’s originally English and her husband is Scottish. Unless he’s gay. According to the Scottish referendum thread, this is indeed the case. **Pjen** lives in Scotland, and, in the manner of converts to a new faith, has become more Scottish than the Scots. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steophan-engage-in-argument-with-cites-and-facts-rather-than-unsupported-belief-stop-running-away/714515.md?page=3)