# Stephen Collins, say it ain't so! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 7, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654 "2014-10-07T14:44:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/1 "2014-10-07T14:44:53Z")
Except your wife secretly taped your confession during therapy sessions and released the tapes rather conveniently right now, during your extremely bitter divorce instead of when she first learned of the incidents. He’s exposed himself to a few young girls over the years. Not excusing what he did … but good luck getting people who realize what they did was wrong and want to get help and support when things like this happen. TMZ has the tape with the victims names removed > **[TMZ](https://www.tmz.com/)** > > Breaking the biggest stories in celebrity and entertainment news. Get exclusive access to the latest stories, photos, and video as only TMZ can. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/2 "2014-10-07T15:00:17Z")
Ninja’d, damn it! I was going to go with “From “7th Heaven” to 2nd Circle of Hell” as a thread title. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/3 "2014-10-07T15:46:09Z")
This will likely cost him his Starfleet pension. What??? Too soon? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/4 "2014-10-07T15:48:25Z")
That explains why Dennis & Dee are so screwed up. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/5 "2014-10-07T15:53:51Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > This will likely cost him his Starfleet pension. > > What??? Too soon? wow I never realized that was him. you learn something new every day ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/6 "2014-10-07T16:47:08Z")
First internet comment I read this morning on the story: “Damn, you can’t even _pretend_ to be a priest and not touch kids.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/7 "2014-10-07T17:02:34Z")
He is a bad man for abusing his wife. His wife is a bad human being for taping a therapy session and even worse for release it to the public just for kicks and revenge. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/8 "2014-10-07T17:05:41Z")
> [@Cartooniverse](#): > > This will likely cost him his Starfleet pension. > > What??? Too soon? Doubt he got any. “Merging with/becoming a non-corporeal superior lifeform” isn’t covered. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/9 "2014-10-07T17:30:11Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > He is a bad man for abusing his wife. > > His wife is a bad human being for taping a therapy session and even worse for release it to the public just for kicks and revenge. This is what I thought. No good guys in this story. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/10 "2014-10-07T17:44:36Z")
So much for the confidentiality of the doctor’s office. Next time you spill your guts in therapy, be sure Big Mother isn’t listening. But of course, things like _that_ can’t happen in America! [_Stifles sick laugh_.] ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/11 "2014-10-07T17:47:16Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > He is a bad man for abusing his wife. Was he also slapping his wife around, or did you mean to write “niece?” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/12 "2014-10-07T18:04:24Z")
I incorrectly assumed that he abused his wife. That isn’t in the story. He’s just a child molester and the wife is a creep. And apparently one of the children in question is the niece of a neighbor. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/13 "2014-10-07T18:42:31Z")
There’s got to be a “Gold Monkey” joke in there somewhere but my bad taste gene hasn’t kicked in yet today. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/14 "2014-10-07T18:43:26Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > So much for the confidentiality of the doctor’s office. Next time you spill your guts in therapy, be sure Big Mother isn’t listening. > > But of course, things like _that_ can’t happen in America! [_Stifles sick laugh_.] Can someone translate this into something non-tinfoil types can read? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/15 "2014-10-07T18:49:48Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Can someone translate this into something non-tinfoil types can read? I get the sentiment. The expectation is that your therapy session is confidential and secure…when it is not. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/16 "2014-10-07T19:04:26Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > I get the sentiment. The expectation is that your therapy session is confidential and secure…when it is not. But the therapist (or “Big Mother,” for that matter) didn’t betray the confidentiality of the session, his ex-wife did. And she isn’t bound by any kind of oath not to air his dirty laundry. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/17 "2014-10-07T19:05:46Z")
I still think it’s really fucking creepy that she could legally secretly record a therapy session. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/18 "2014-10-07T19:28:24Z")
> [@](#): > > We’re told her lawyer advised her it was legal to secretly record the conversation because in California you’re allowed to secretly record conversations to gather evidence the other person committed a violent felony I’m not so sure her lawyer was right. At least when it comes to therapy, where there is an expectation of privacy. Can the resident lawyers clarify for us? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/19 "2014-10-07T19:55:09Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I still think it’s really fucking creepy that she could legally secretly record a therapy session. California lawyer checking in here. I think her lawyer was wrong, and this was a crime to record the session. I have doubts as to admissibility. > [@](#): > > Cal. Penal Code 632 > 632. (a) Every person who, intentionally and without the consent of > all parties to a confidential communication, by means of any > electronic amplifying or recording device, eavesdrops upon or records > the confidential communication, whether the communication is carried > on among the parties in the presence of one another or by means of a > telegraph, telephone, or other device, except a radio, shall be > punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand five hundred dollars > ($2,500), or imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding one year, > or in the state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment. If the > person has previously been convicted of a violation of this section > or Section 631, 632.5, 632.6, 632.7, or 636, the person shall be > punished by a fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), by > imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding one year, or in the > state prison, or by both that fine and imprisonment. > (b) The term “person” includes an individual, business > association, partnership, corporation, limited liability company, or > other legal entity, and an individual acting or purporting to act for > or on behalf of any government or subdivision thereof, whether > federal, state, or local, but excludes an individual known by all > parties to a confidential communication to be overhearing or > recording the communication. > (c) The term “confidential communication” includes any > communication carried on in circumstances as may reasonably indicate > that any party to the communication desires it to be confined to the > parties thereto, but excludes a communication made in a public > gathering or in any legislative, judicial, executive or > administrative proceeding open to the public, or in any other > circumstance in which the parties to the communication may reasonably > expect that the communication may be overheard or recorded. > (d) Except as proof in an action or prosecution for violation of > this section, no evidence obtained as a result of eavesdropping upon > or recording a confidential communication in violation of this > section shall be admissible in any judicial, administrative, > legislative, or other proceeding. > (e) This section does not apply (1) to any public utility engaged > in the business of providing communications services and facilities, > or to the officers, employees or agents thereof, where the acts > otherwise prohibited by this section are for the purpose of > construction, maintenance, conduct or operation of the services and > facilities of the public utility, or (2) to the use of any > instrument, equipment, facility, or service furnished and used > pursuant to the tariffs of a public utility, or (3) to any telephonic > communication system used for communication exclusively within a > state, county, city and county, or city correctional facility. > (f) This section does not apply to the use of hearing aids and > similar devices, by persons afflicted with impaired hearing, for the > purpose of overcoming the impairment to permit the hearing of sounds > ordinarily audible to the human ear. ---
**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-collins-say-it-aint-so/700654/20 "2014-10-07T23:46:42Z")
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